: Thu Jun 25, 2009 11:19 am  

SAINT ANDREW wrote:

was talking to a mate last night about the hock situation and he seemed to think / heard on the grape vine, that the RL have a list of players who they are trying to catch. 2 players he mentioned on the list are pretty well known for being recreational drug users around my neck of the woods. maybe hock has been a example of in order to rattle these other players "on the list"

Unless you can prove this do not post it. tm - tl

Its just that Hock was unfortunate to be the unlucky one to get caught.

: Thu Jun 25, 2009 11:28 am  

Mugwump wrote:

I've got to say that the muscle mass gained by some of these youngsters - often within a single close season - is pretty eye-popping. I mean, there are guys I know from the gym who hammered the weights for three or four years to achieve similar results. On the flipside, it's true to say that it's not all about pumping iron. Eating the correct foods in the correct proportions and generally looking after yourself will help enormously. The guys I know think nothing of a quick fag after training and then down to the boozer for six pints.

Diet and supplementation, together with large rest persiods due to no full time job and a strength conditioning coach ensure that this is the case. The players can bulk during the off-season, and then burn off the excess fat they have gained with high intensity training before the season starts. I doubt that the club would risk putting a player on a drug cycle, it wouldn't be worth the risk.

The odd player may dabble, but they usually get found out in the end.

: Thu Jun 25, 2009 11:59 am  

McClennan wrote:

Bad news for Wigoon and England. Hock is the one blockbusting British player Wigoon have got and with decent coaching he could improve and get himself into position for making our bench. Replacing him is a big task and they'll have to splash the cash to get somebody on board for next year equally as effective. Hopefully this will mean Phil Bailey gets another year or two from them

hahahah fantastic, kick em whilst down pal, gerrum kicked.

: Thu Jun 25, 2009 12:34 pm  

Shawy wrote:

Its just that Hock was unfortunate to be the unlucky one to get caught.

wouldnt say he was unlucky. if he got tested after a game on a friday then he must have on it wednesday or thursday night. theres nothing unlucky about that!!

: Thu Jun 25, 2009 12:45 pm  

SAINT ANDREW wrote:

wouldnt say he was unlucky. if he got tested after a game on a friday then he must have on it wednesday or thursday night. theres nothing unlucky about that!!

Just really dumb. If you're going to do it, do it after a match, not in the 2/3 days before. Not condoning it but if you decide to break the law at least try to make sure you dont get caught

: Thu Jun 25, 2009 12:58 pm  

Mugwump wrote:

I don't care what those guys were eating - there's NO WAY you can bulk up to such an extent in three months. No way.

I would suggest that the biggest factor you haven't taken into consideration is that these guys don't have to fit in their gym work around a full time job. They also all have a top end personal trainer and dieticion (sp) who will be monitoring them daily.

: Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:02 am  

Saint Simon wrote:

Just really dumb. If you're going to do it, do it after a match, not in the 2/3 days before. Not condoning it but if you decide to break the law at least try to make sure you dont get caught

WHAT JUST LIKE your langtree did befor he even started

: Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:47 am  

Offside Monkey wrote:

I would suggest that the biggest factor you haven't taken into consideration is that these guys don't have to fit in their gym work around a full time job. They also all have a top end personal trainer and dieticion (sp) who will be monitoring them daily.

I'm talking about the days when players weren't fully pro.

: Fri Jun 26, 2009 10:14 am  

shooter69 wrote:

WHAT JUST LIKE your langtree did befor he even started

If your going to post drivel at least have the drivel make sense.

: Fri Jun 26, 2009 10:16 am  

No1 Saint wrote:

If your going to post drivel at least have the drivel make sense.

He's referring to the junior player we fired earlier this year for being a beak head.