Re: Stadium Site pictures : Wed Sep 22, 2010 6:52 pm  

Does the 'build time' that was bandied around actually mean how long for the whole project or does it refer to just the actual building the stadium once the groundworks are done? If the latter it will be a tight squeeze to be open for Christmas(I refer to of course xmas 2011), especially as you guys still have have/have had a boxing day game?

Re: Stadium Site pictures : Wed Sep 22, 2010 10:24 pm  

http://www.barr-construction.co.uk/case ... e-stadium/

http://www.barr-construction.co.uk/case ... e-stadium/

Re: Stadium Site pictures : Thu Sep 23, 2010 11:47 am  

roader wrote:

http://www.barr-construction.co.uk/case-studies/stadium-design/new-st-helens-rugby-league-stadium/

archaeology trial trenching, hope they find nowt.

Re: Stadium Site pictures : Thu Sep 23, 2010 4:52 pm  

The Doghead wrote:

archaeology trial trenching, hope they find nowt.

Ditto. That could delay the project for ages.

I noticed it said a completion date of October 2011. The stadium will then have to be fitted and kitted. It's gonna be tight!

Re: Stadium Site pictures : Thu Sep 23, 2010 11:20 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

Ditto. That could delay the project for ages.

I noticed it said a completion date of October 2011. The stadium will then have to be fitted and kitted. It's gonna be tight!

If time team is anything to go by then there will be an archaelogical time window to enable recovery of artifacts. Will probably be two weeks. After which everything starts again. Only chance of getting things delayed longer is if archaelogists found something like the Lost Ark of the Covernment. or King Arthurs Camelot buried under the glass works.

Interstingly looking at Warringtons stadium. They started work in January 2003 and handed over the completed stadium that October.
Now when you consider that Barr have started the Saints ground some 5 months earlier than Wires ground, but with the same month of estimated completion, then it shows to me that there is some leeway in the timescales being worked to.
There shouldnt be any concern at this stage about not being in the new stadium for the start of 2012.

Just to show you how quick things can move wants everything is demolished.

This was the HJ stadium site in February 2003




This was the same site in May of the same year

Re: Stadium Site pictures : Fri Sep 24, 2010 9:37 am  

If they find my screwdriver, Avo 8 and potentiometer that I left at UGB on a service visit many years ago then it will cause massive delays in the construction phase.
They are real relics.

Re: Stadium Site pictures : Fri Sep 24, 2010 11:47 am  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

If they find my screwdriver, Avo 8 and potentiometer that I left at UGB on a service visit many years ago then it will cause massive delays in the construction phase.
They are real relics.

Seriously Rogues, what do guys like you - fans of local rivals, think about the prospect our new home?

Re: Stadium Site pictures : Fri Sep 24, 2010 12:27 pm  

Offside Monkey wrote:

Seriously Rogues, what do guys like you - fans of local rivals, think about the prospect our new home?

Like you I'll be sad to see the old girl go. As I've posted on the Wigan site I've got some great and not so great memories of Knowsley Road, from sitting on folding chairs on the ringside, watching the Harlem Globetrotters, Boxing days through an alcoholic haze, the 5 -4 Lancashire Cup classic and the 75 - 0 and so many more.

Onto the new ground. Like everyone else I suppose it'll take a bit of getting used to. Where do we park? Where do we go for a beer etc. I'm already looking forward to our first visit, and will keep an eye out on the progression on my weekly Wednesday visits to B&Q

I sincerely hope everything goes to plan, it's ready on time and it's a success. However I do have one reservation. I'm not convinced that Saints will see the expected crowd increases, particularly if on field success isn't achieved.

Re: Stadium Site pictures : Fri Sep 24, 2010 12:41 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

I sincerely hope everything goes to plan, it's ready on time and it's a success. However I do have one reservation. I'm not convinced that Saints will see the expected crowd increases, particularly if on field success isn't achieved.

A lot of people point to Warrington's crowd increase as a template, but in their case the HJ coincided with the a wholesale change under Simon Moran and the hope that a middling team starved of success was moving into a new era of success (which to be fair, is reletively true). Saints on the other hand are a team that's been consistantly at the top and regulary winning trophies for 14 years now, even if its been a bit slow of late. There's not a lot more they can offer on the field.
Mind you, even if crowds stay the same, i could imagine the running costs will be lower due to the lack of running repairs needed and we'll surely get more income from the coporate/conferencing side of things.

I'll miss the old place like crazy, I've a lot of great memories, but tbh Widnes is more convinient for me (which is a minor silver lining), and once we're in our own new shiney stadium, I think the heartbreak of moving will heal quicker than people realise.

Re: Stadium Site pictures : Fri Sep 24, 2010 7:32 pm  

The Chair Maker wrote:

If time team is anything to go by then there will be an archaelogical time window to enable recovery of artifacts. Will probably be two weeks. After which everything starts again. Only chance of getting things delayed longer is if archaelogists found something like the Lost Ark of the Covernment. or King Arthurs Camelot buried under the glass works.

Interstingly looking at Warringtons stadium. They started work in January 2003 and handed over the completed stadium that October.
Now when you consider that Barr have started the Saints ground some 5 months earlier than Wires ground, but with the same month of estimated completion, then it shows to me that there is some leeway in the timescales being worked to.
There shouldnt be any concern at this stage about not being in the new stadium for the start of 2012.

Just to show you how quick things can move wants everything is demolished.

This was the HJ stadium site in February 2003
This was the same site in May of the same year

Lets be honest though, their ground is more like a Meccano kit, functional but spartan, yours is going to be at least the equal of the KC and should take at least 13 months from start to finish when you consider how much demolition needs doing & the signing off etc.
Archaeology digs can always be worked around anyway but it might be the weather that holds things up if we have anything like last winter.
It'll be cracking when it is done & fitting for the Saints team performances, hopefully the town will show their support in greater numbers than ever especially for games that are not so appealing which is where it appears you fall down even during your all conquering season (7 out of 14 home games were under 10K with 2 of the other 7 just over by less than 100).