Re: Royce Gone !! : Mon Mar 19, 2012 9:26 pm  

Tony Stark wrote:

I'm gonna go ahead and guess you didn't read the post.

Kite and King currently play for the NRL Champs... exactly, would we have been able to attract and afford them?

Gibbs is 10 times the player Laffranchi is... 1) He's 27, 2) a current origin player & 3) In late 2010 "he signed a contract to remain with the Wests Tigers until the end of the 2014 season. However, by the middle of 2011, Wests Tigers had released Gibbs in order to make room for Adam Blair, and he signed a three year conract with the Cronulla Sharks from the start of 2012 - We would never have been able to afford or attract him either

O'Meley... is currently mid-way through a lucrative contract with Hull

Lauaki's stats aren't as good as Laffranchi's thus far, Dudson if I'm correct has yet to even play, Chris Hill's stats (though 2 games less) are comparable at best, Darrell Griffin's stats are currently inferior...

Are you Phil Clarke?

Listen, the was props available and we opted for a average backrow to replace the best player at the club.

Is is from a coach that constantly said he won't pick players out of postion and that was the main reason for the back on the bench.

He wont play players out of postion but signs a backrow and fullback to play prop and stand off

Well if we can't find a prop anywhere in the world in the time we had (10 props moved in the NRL) then props will be extinct soon.

Re: Royce Gone !! : Mon Mar 19, 2012 9:30 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

The man has only just landed in this country, although God knows he must be wondering what on earth he has let himself in for. You don't throw someone who knows nothing about the ethos, structure, etc of a team straight in at the deep end if you don't have to. He has played in the halves though and we won those games (although that could be coincidence of course). But not consistently as yet because he needed time and Royce wanted to keep his players fresh to get a GF win this time, so he was rotating them.

He's a world cup winning player who's played in NRL grand finals so I'd suspect he'd be ok against super league sides.

I'd thought he'd stuck with him at #7 if he thought he was the answer.

Only time will tell if he makes it in the halves but I'm willing to bet you £200 he don't make a success of that postion.

Re: Royce Gone !! : Mon Mar 19, 2012 9:31 pm  

St pete wrote:

Listen, the was props available and we opted for a average backrow to replace the best player at the club.

Look (which is more appropriate since we are typing on a screen), there were props available, we bid for them, and they went elsewhere.

End of debate.

Re: Royce Gone !! : Mon Mar 19, 2012 9:33 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

Look (which is more appropriate since we are typing on a screen), there were props available, we bid for them, and they went elsewhere.

End of debate.

Maybe they just had chat with Royce and went elsewhere

Re: Royce Gone !! : Mon Mar 19, 2012 10:27 pm  

Wrong choice of appointment in the first place.

I can remember when the appointment was announced and the Hull fans were saying, top bloke, yes, will run marathons for you, but head coach? No.

Eamonn was trying to emulate Wigan by taking an NRL assistant coach and hoping he would do the magic over here. Dont want to sound ageist but, there was a reason why Madge was no 2 at the most successful club in the NRL by his mid thirties. And also a reason why Royce was not a head coach in the NRL by his fifties.

At least Eamonn has had the balls to admit his error and tried to rectify it.
KFC I don't think is the answer, too much too soon, could do more damage than good and could take him years to recover ala Betts at Wigan.

What you need now is an old hand to steady the ship in these troubled times

Re: Royce Gone !! : Mon Mar 19, 2012 10:31 pm  

nikos wrote:

And also a reason why Royce was not a head coach in the NRL by his fifties.

Wayne Bennett must be total crap then!

Re: Royce Gone !! : Mon Mar 19, 2012 10:34 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

:lol:

Wayne Bennett must be total crap then!

he wasnt making a living from rugby league his whole life

Re: Royce Gone !! : Mon Mar 19, 2012 10:48 pm  

feilds of knowsleyRD wrote:

he wasnt making a living from rugby league his whole life

What?

Re: Royce Gone !! : Mon Mar 19, 2012 11:19 pm  

St pete wrote:

Are you Phil Clarke?

Listen, the was props available and we opted for a average backrow to replace the best player at the club.

You keep saying there were props available. So far you haven't listed a single viable candidate. And I shall restate an obvious point - a club's "best player" is BY DEFINITION extraordinarily difficult to replace. There are only two or three props in the world capable of doing Graham's job. NONE were available.

You describe Laffranchi as "average". Yet he has played for both NSW and Australia and has consistently been regarded as one of the top back row forwards in the NRL. I mean, you're making yourself look utterly stupid.

Is is from a coach that constantly said he won't pick players out of postion and that was the main reason for the back on the bench.

Did you miss the bit about saving players for the playoffs?

He wont play players out of postion but signs a backrow and fullback to play prop and stand off

Were you complaining when David Fairleigh was picked at prop for Saints? And since when was it unusual for a back row to gravitate toward the front? Since when was it unusual for a full-back to play in the halves? A full-back who, I might add, has represented New Zealand in the halves.

Well if we can't find a prop anywhere in the world in the time we had (10 props moved in the NRL) then props will be extinct soon.

How many good props have Saints produced in the last twenty five years? When I said "good" I mean a player with the wherewithal to cement a long-term career at the club (say five or six years in the first team).

Re: Royce Gone !! : Tue Mar 20, 2012 1:29 am  

St pete wrote:

Lauaki, dudson

Lauaki and Dudson are second rowers by trade. People would have levelled the same complaint they are now about converting second rowers.