: Mon Mar 30, 2009 8:11 am  

Have to agree with the general sentiment. When I saw it, it was clear the player had pulled up, and to jump on him like that looked a cheap shot. Had it not been the night it was, it is the sort of thing that leads to a bit of biff (not normally complaining about that!), but I would have rather seen Atkins put a big shot on someone running at him rather than an injured man lying on the floor in pain.

Re: Ryan Atkins : Mon Mar 30, 2009 8:23 am  

DoubleAone wrote:

This is sad and boring. Why bring Bailey into it.

Atkins and Bailey did nothing wrong despite what the ref and PC think.

It is a gladiatoral contest with full contact. ont pull the shirt on if you can take it.

I hope you are as critical the next time its a Saints player.

I brought Bailey into it to illustrate the inconsistency between the refs, if it was a penalty when Bailey did it Graham it should have been when Atkins did it on Wheeler.

Wheeler was quite clearly injured and what Atkins did was unncessary. As I have pointed out earlier I would be critical if a Saints player did it.

: Mon Mar 30, 2009 8:40 am  

Eurob0y wrote:

Atkins doesnt look to have kicked on, as much as his potential would have suggested he could.

He needs to move to either Saints or Leeds, or his potential will be wasted.

He will be fine at Wakey thanks!

Hopefuly he will have a big year this and start to show he is good enough for England. He has certianly started well this season and hopefuly he can be more consistent this season.

: Mon Mar 30, 2009 12:05 pm  

He is doing well at Wakey I am sure he will stay there.

The tackle was not required really. I have seen worse (Adrian Shelford anyone!!). It should really be illegal to do that but as it is not there is not much more to say about it.

Re: Ryan Atkins : Mon Mar 30, 2009 12:08 pm  

Saint Michael wrote:

:lol:
I brought Bailey into it to illustrate the inconsistency between the refs, if it was a penalty when Bailey did it Graham it should have been when Atkins did it on Wheeler.

Wheeler was quite clearly injured and what Atkins did was unncessary. As I have pointed out earlier I would be critical if a Saints player did it.

The ref was clearly wrong in the Bailey case and would also have been wrong in the Atkins/Wheeler case.

Both players were in possession of the ball and not tackled at the time.

The defender has a duty to prevent the ball carrier off loading the ball.

Re: Ryan Atkins : Mon Mar 30, 2009 12:42 pm  

DoubleAone wrote:

The ref was clearly wrong in the Bailey case and would also have been wrong in the Atkins/Wheeler case.

Both players were in possession of the ball and not tackled at the time.

The defender has a duty to prevent the ball carrier off loading the ball.

But as the player was injured, Atkins had to do nothing more than put his hands on him and make a token tackle.

Atkins isn't a dirty player though, and is looking more like the Atkins we expect this year than the shadow we got last year.

Re: Ryan Atkins : Mon Mar 30, 2009 12:49 pm  

DoubleAone wrote:

The ref was clearly wrong in the Bailey case and would also have been wrong in the Atkins/Wheeler case.

Both players were in possession of the ball and not tackled at the time.

The defender has a duty to prevent the ball carrier off loading the ball.

So if Atkins hadn't off dropped on Wheeler would he have penalised him for a voluntary tackle, as it was plain for everyone to see he wasn't going to get up again, or stopped the play because of an injury?

: Mon Mar 30, 2009 1:36 pm  

Clearly Atkins didn't heed the new directive from the previous Friday where you're not allowed to tackle un-tackled Saints players with too much force.

: Mon Mar 30, 2009 1:45 pm  

G1 wrote:

Clearly Atkins didn't heed the new directive from the previous Friday where you're not allowed to tackle un-tackled Saints players with too much force.

... I think you may mean "unnecessary" force

: Mon Mar 30, 2009 1:48 pm  

I wonder why this thread has upset more Leeds fans than it has Wakey?