: Mon Apr 06, 2009 8:00 pm  

if i were saints, i would fine him 1 - 2 months wages (to save some cash) but not sack him, reardon hit a defenseless woman, pryce pushed a man bandishing a weapon, thats how i would spin it.

: Mon Apr 06, 2009 8:02 pm  

the wicker man wrote:

They may well do and then sign Trent Barratt as his replacement...or maybe even benji Marshall..you just never can tell with Saints...

hahaha

: Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:41 pm  

knowsley blue wrote:

No, if we really wanted to punish Pryce we would send him to Wigan on loan.

: Tue Apr 07, 2009 5:24 am  

Just a thought on some things that I can recall in my many years, all this talk of clubs or the RFL punishing players for various things, I'm speaking of the legal issue with Leon, and also in the news Ben Cockayne, the way I see it is that these people will have been handed a sentence by THE BRITISH JUSTCE SYSTEM, so therefore they have paid for there misdemeanors, and any further action by clubs etc wouldnt a smart lawyer actually say what I have just done. They have been before the law and justice system of the land and been punished for their wrong doings, that should be the end of it.

: Tue Apr 07, 2009 6:43 am  

Journeyman wrote:

Just a thought on some things that I can recall in my many years, all this talk of clubs or the RFL punishing players for various things, I'm speaking of the legal issue with Leon, and also in the news Ben Cockayne, the way I see it is that these people will have been handed a sentence by THE BRITISH JUSTCE SYSTEM, so therefore they have paid for there misdemeanors, and any further action by clubs etc wouldnt a smart lawyer actually say what I have just done. They have been before the law and justice system of the land and been punished for their wrong doings, that should be the end of it.

most if not all professional sportsmens contracts included a clause about "bringing the club into disrepute" which basically means that if your actions could endanger the clubs reputation in anyway, we have the right to terminate the contract.

: Tue Apr 07, 2009 7:34 am  

From my own POV, if the RFL have not been involved previously then they should not be involved either with Cockayne or with Pryce and Reardon. If they want to be involved from now on in then that's up to them, but it would be out of order for them to allow Bailey, who did serve time, to continue playing while getting on their high horses about Cockayne and Pryce and Reardon. They should work on some new structure if they think they have a place these days in sorting out these things.

When any action by a club is considered, some thought surely has to be given to the nature and seriousness of the crime committed. Common assault is a crime almost any one of us could get caught for if our 'victim' wanted to take issue. All it takes is a bit of a push ... That is entirely different from kicking someone repeatedly in the head or indeed at all. Therefore, if there are any sanctions for Cockayne or Pryce and Reardon they should be in line with the crime they committed. Not all crimes are the same and even the law recognises that (Cockayne being guilty of ABH, Pryce and Reardon of common assault). Should someone with a speeding or a driving without due care conviction be banned from playing? I think not.

Personally, I don't think Saints should do anything further to Pryce or Warrington to Reardon. Whatever sentence they are handed down will be sufficient given the nature of their crimes. Cockayne is a slightly different matter because of the relative seriousness of what he did but the RFL still should not interfere because they did not do so over Bailey. His future should be left to HKR, given that that has been the policy to date.

: Tue Apr 07, 2009 8:14 am  

why did Millward get sacked from Saints? Abusive behaviour, in private. He was never convicted of any crimes.

It would be a case of outrageous double standards if Saints didnt sack him - but I dont expect that we will.

: Tue Apr 07, 2009 8:39 am  

saints35 bulls0 wrote:

why did Millward get sacked from Saints? Abusive behaviour, in private. He was never convicted of any crimes.

It would be a case of outrageous double standards if Saints didnt sack him - but I dont expect that we will.

I think there is a slight difference. Millward's offences were conducted on duty, so he was officially representing the club at the time.

There is of course the argument that a sportsman is representing his club at all times, and I do not in any way condone Pryce's actions, but I think they are different cases.

: Tue Apr 07, 2009 9:19 am  

saints35 bulls0 wrote:

why did Millward get sacked from Saints? Abusive behaviour, in private.

How could abusing a member of the media at a press conference ever be considered "in private"?

: Tue Apr 07, 2009 9:20 am  

Offside Monkey wrote:

How could abusing a member of the media at a press conference ever be considered "in private"?

She deserved it anyways, its her own fault for ermmmm being there.