: Thu May 21, 2009 9:48 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Not even good as Ainscoughs at Harlequins this season though.

How many caps did terrible Tommy get?
he was another Lee briers, flattered to deceive, and just like Briers couldn't tackle.

And that's why NO coach ever picked him for England or GB.

Tommy actually got picked for the GB squad on at least one occasion but had to pull out through injury.

It was sometimes said by people that Tommy couldnt tackle, however i well remember him making over 40 tackles in one match.
He was also the last true exponent of the cumberland throw, a martial art tackle that no players today know how to execute.

He is one of the top 3 British halves ive seen, the others being Scofield and Tony Myler.

: Thu May 21, 2009 10:01 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

Ah, is that the reason for Rogues' bitterness? He's usually so balanced as well, for a Pie. He's still hurting, isn't he? Bless.

The main reason for the biterness is because Tommy spoiled the party and was the last points scorer ever at Central Park.
That's the main reason, even though they won't admit it.

: Thu May 21, 2009 10:39 pm  

Duke Eddington wrote:

The main reason for the biterness is because Tommy spoiled the party and was the last points scorer ever at Central Park.
That's the main reason, even though they won't admit it.

Not true.

I never rated him, neither did Ellery Hanley, and neither did any GB/ England coach.

Now, you can accuse me of bias (which of course I'm not) but how do you explain the others?

Leon Pryce is by far a better player than Martyn ever was.

: Thu May 21, 2009 10:43 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Not true.

I never rated him, neither did Ellery Hanley, and neither did any GB/ England coach.

Now, you can accuse me of bias (which of course I'm not) but how do you explain the others?

Leon Pryce is by far a better player than Martyn ever was.

Well maybe thats why we weren't successful at internationals?

: Thu May 21, 2009 11:04 pm  

Hanley never rated Martyn (probably because Martyn made a statue out of him in the CC Semi before he did his knee), and Hanley paid the price for it. Tommy had more skill under his left fingernail than Edwards ever possessed.

: Fri May 22, 2009 6:58 am  

saint billy wrote:

The ball was knocked out, and he tried to regather the ball but completely missed it, it bounced, he picked it up, straight under the sticks. Think we won 30-28.

By Lee Gilmour if I recall correctly.

: Fri May 22, 2009 7:38 am  

St pete wrote:

Didn't the pies claim he knocked on?

Didn't tommy score the last try at centrel park?

yes and yes

: Fri May 22, 2009 7:44 am  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Yes, for the losing side.

He was a leyther, we had to humour him.

He actually came very close to signing for Wigan, Ellery Hanley saw his defensive deficiencies and wanted rid.

Thank god he never came.

If he had have done you'd be on here waxing lyrical about him ad nauseum.

: Fri May 22, 2009 7:48 am  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Not true.

I never rated him, neither did Ellery Hanley

Yeah Ellery's Tricky Trindall plan was a far better option

Martyn was all class, great player.

: Fri May 22, 2009 8:06 am  

Martyn was a very underated player and but for injuries at crucial times (two bionic knees) would have played for GB. He did play for Ireland though so he is an international.
Regarding his partnership with Long it was one of the best I have seen. The pair really clicked on the field bar the odd off day which every player has from time to time. Tommy's 40 /20's were super.