: Mon Jun 22, 2009 5:50 pm  

Dux wrote:

Myth.

Newlove didn't myth thackles ofthen!

: Mon Jun 22, 2009 5:59 pm  

ROBINSON wrote:

Loughlin was a better tackler than Newlove, who was a bit weak in that department.

Newlove had one of the highest tackle completion ratios at the club. And that includes the forwards. Where you're getting this "can't tackle" notion from I've no idea.

: Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:09 pm  

Newlove was dynamite Loughlin was quite often poop.

: Mon Jun 22, 2009 7:36 pm  

Dux wrote:

Myth.

It's not, actually.

: Mon Jun 22, 2009 7:37 pm  

Mugwump wrote:

Newlove had one of the highest tackle completion ratios at the club. And that includes the forwards. Where you're getting this "can't tackle" notion from I've no idea.

From watching him, obviously. if you took your blinkers off, you'd understand.

Statistics are nothing - you know full well that a 'tackle' is counted no matter where in the tackle you come in, whether you manage it on your own, to if you're the third man in over the top.

One on one, Newlove was shaky.

: Mon Jun 22, 2009 7:50 pm  

ROBINSON wrote:

From watching him, obviously. if you took your blinkers off, you'd understand.

Statistics are nothing - you know full well that a 'tackle' is counted no matter where in the tackle you come in, whether you manage it on your own, to if you're the third man in over the top.

One on one, Newlove was shaky.

Did Stevo tell you that?

I bet you also think that Gary Connolly has better upper body strength than Marius Pudzianowski, and could beat him in an arm wrestle with one finger.

: Mon Jun 22, 2009 7:52 pm  

Smurf wrote:

Did Stevo tell you that?

I bet you also think that Gary Connolly has better upper body strength than Marius Pudzianowski, and could beat him in an arm wrestle with one finger.

Now you're being stupid.

: Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:05 pm  

Southport Saint wrote:

Newlove was dynamite Loughlin was quite often poop.

Are you for real?

The simple answer to the question is Newlove. He could score special individual tries from anywhere on the field. Not may other players can do that.

Loughlin was a class act. You don't get to score so many points and receive so many international caps if you're anything else. The abuse that he endured from certain Saints fans (some who come on here) towards the end of his St.Helens career was a disgrace.

Both weren't the greatest defensively, by the way, but there were adequate.

: Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:09 pm  

I thought both where great but Newlove was much greater! I wish he'd joined Saints earlier from Fev instead of us having to watch him at the Dulls for a couple of seasons

: Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:15 pm  

ST STEPHEN wrote:

I thought both where great but Newlove was much greater! I wish he'd joined Saints earlier from Fev instead of us having to watch him at the Dulls for a couple of seasons

That could have changed the 93/94 and 94/95 season results, IMO