Re: Wigan EnvyOMeter : Thu Mar 04, 2010 7:47 am  

pedro17 wrote:

Smiths bias towards the Wire players was terrible, we have a good select 20 or so but you have to select them not 'jobs for the boys'.

Is that why he picked tompkins and eastmond over Myler and briers for the 4 nations? The only person i questioned the inclusion of was westwood, but i had to conceed he played well in the 4 nations

Re: Wigan EnvyOMeter : Thu Mar 04, 2010 8:59 am  

i thought briers was welsh?

Re: Wigan EnvyOMeter : Thu Mar 04, 2010 9:10 am  

Harry Pinner wrote:

Scott Moore was out on loan to gain experience because we already had 2 international class hookers and the 3rd couldn't get in the team. So to answer your question, no, not like Ainscough who was simply replaced with an Aussie who's ten years older.

lol.

Where as we sent Ainscough out on loan, even though we dont actually have two wingers that are better than him, we did it just because we hate bringing young players through.

Fact is Amos Roberts is better than Ainscough, as is Pat, its exactly the same as the Moore situation, the only differences being the nationality of the players in front of him, and their position. Ainscough showed why Roberts is better than him in the Cas game, look at the Cockayne try, I'd rather have Ainscough making those mistakes at another club, then coming back having learnt from them.

Re: Wigan EnvyOMeter : Thu Mar 04, 2010 9:12 am  

Saint Simon wrote:

Is that why he picked tompkins and eastmond over Myler and briers for the 4 nations? The only person i questioned the inclusion of was westwood, but i had to conceed he played well in the 4 nations

Higham?? I would have preferred Roby by miles!!

Re: Wigan EnvyOMeter : Thu Mar 04, 2010 9:27 am  

Batesy wrote:

Higham?? I would have preferred Roby by miles!!

Higham wasnt selected in the 4 nations.

Re: Wigan EnvyOMeter : Thu Mar 04, 2010 10:25 am  

Opps

it was Moore and sinfield wasn't it

Re: Wigan EnvyOMeter : Thu Mar 04, 2010 11:40 am  

Batesy wrote:

Opps

it was Moore and sinfield wasn't it

No, only one player played at hooker in all the games and that was Roby.

Re: Wigan EnvyOMeter : Thu Mar 04, 2010 12:51 pm  

pedro17 wrote:

Smiths bias towards the Wire players was terrible, we have a good select 20 or so but you have to select them not 'jobs for the boys'.

So.... if Roby isn't international class and Smith shows bias towards Wire players why was Roby picked over Higham?

Re: Wigan EnvyOMeter : Thu Mar 04, 2010 1:18 pm  

pedro17 wrote:

Many times = 8.

And the international coaches = Smith.....well least said the better.

How Many caps have Piggy and McIlorum got? The only International hooker you have is your scrum half.

Re: Wigan EnvyOMeter : Thu Mar 04, 2010 1:29 pm  

Rocketman wrote:

So.... if Roby isn't international class and Smith shows bias towards Wire players why was Roby picked over Higham?

this is a great question, one i think our pie friend will not answer