Re: Sam Tomkins : Thu Apr 09, 2015 8:24 am  

Mugwump wrote:

He's reached his level now in the NRL. A very good "second tier" player who was overtaken by Burgess & Graham in terms of performance and achievement.

His attack on Cunningham's knee was one of the filthiest pieces of play I've ever seen.

I very much doubt KC would look twice at him.

How many games did Cunningham miss from that tackle?

When Cunningham got the coaches job back in July last year, he tried to sign Matty Smith. That move may now be back on.

Re: Sam Tomkins : Thu Apr 09, 2015 8:36 am  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

How many games did Cunningham miss from that tackle?

When Cunningham got the coaches job back in July last year, he tried to sign Matty Smith. That move may now be back on.

Good on him, we should be doing our best to unsettle any Wigan player, even the ones who would be miles away from our first choice team.

Re: Sam Tomkins : Thu Apr 09, 2015 11:51 am  

I think a couple of posters have their Saints tinted glasses on when talking about Sam Tomkins. I certainly wouldn't describe him as 'second tier' standard or that he's been found out in the NRL.

The lad is absolute class and undoubtedly one of the best fullbacks in the world. I'd love Saints to pick him up but it's not going to happen.

Unfortunately, it looks likely that this stupid 'marquee player' rule is going to come in, which is great news for that idiot at Salford but bad news for the long term financial stability of other super league clubs. Many of whom will be scraping by already.

Re: Sam Tomkins : Thu Apr 09, 2015 11:57 am  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

How many games did Cunningham miss from that tackle?

When Cunningham got the coaches job back in July last year, he tried to sign Matty Smith. That move may now be back on.

I'd be interested to see where you heard KC wanted to sign Smith from. I was told in early August (by a guy who knows the Hull KR chairman very well) that we had tied up the deal for Travis Burns (and Burns has said in an interview earlier this season that it was KC who he spoke to most and really pushed for him to sign). We knew at that point that Walsh would be here this season too so find it hard to believe that we would have had any interest in Smith as we wouldnt have needed him

Re: Sam Tomkins : Thu Apr 09, 2015 12:50 pm  

Twentyman wrote:

I think a couple of posters have their Saints tinted glasses on when talking about Sam Tomkins. I certainly wouldn't describe him as 'second tier' standard or that he's been found out in the NRL.

The lad is absolute class and undoubtedly one of the best fullbacks in the world. I'd love Saints to pick him up but it's not going to happen.

Unfortunately, it looks likely that this stupid 'marquee player' rule is going to come in, which is great news for that idiot at Salford but bad news for the long term financial stability of other super league clubs. Many of whom will be scraping by already.

Don't necessarily agree on the marquee rule - they should relax all the rules re: third party sponsorship etc for a marquee player - if a club can drum up enough incremental finance on the back of a marketable player signing for their club, why shouldn't they?

I think structured correctly the marquee player rule could work, at the end of the day it's a relatively small (if limited to one player) exception on a cap that has declined in real terms for a while.

Re: Sam Tomkins : Thu Apr 09, 2015 1:02 pm  

wakey_saint wrote:

I'd be interested to see where you heard KC wanted to sign Smith from. I was told in early August (by a guy who knows the Hull KR chairman very well) that we had tied up the deal for Travis Burns (and Burns has said in an interview earlier this season that it was KC who he spoke to most and really pushed for him to sign). We knew at that point that Walsh would be here this season too so find it hard to believe that we would have had any interest in Smith as we wouldnt have needed him

Obviously I won't name the source, but it was in the same conversation regarding Cunningham getting the Saints job in July last year. He is very well connected in RL.

Re: Sam Tomkins : Thu Apr 09, 2015 2:22 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

He is very well connected in RL.

Only one person it could be then. That God of all RL stats...

Re: Sam Tomkins : Thu Apr 09, 2015 5:02 pm  

Rogues

If I had a pound for everytime you have claimed a rumour based on a source that didnt come true I would be a rich man. You have a strike rate akin to St Pete

Regards

King James

Re: Sam Tomkins : Thu Apr 09, 2015 7:24 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

When Cunningham got the coaches job back in July last year, he tried to sign Matty Smith. That move may now be back on.

Bear with me, I am just off to hang up the bunting...

Re: Sam Tomkins : Thu Apr 09, 2015 9:14 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

How many games did Cunningham miss from that tackle?

When Cunningham got the coaches job back in July last year, he tried to sign Matty Smith. That move may now be back on.

Hang on! Severity of injury isn't always reflective of how bad a tackle is! Interesting if we're after Smith, I'd be stunned if that's true because I've heard the complete opposite.