Re: Stadium Site pictures : Wed Oct 26, 2011 7:51 am  

The Chair Maker wrote:

fantastic pics from the 28 days later guys.

Cant condone them sneaking in, and i bet the security guys get a roasting.

As for getting in the stadium. One of Gruntfuttocks pics shows that you dont need to climb over a wall, if your sharp you can walk in through an open front door, with a conveniently placed fire extinguisher to keep the door open.

The 28 days later people are often folk who not only have an eye for adventure but have a genuine interest in recording decaying and unseen bits of our history.

In this case they have been somewhat naughty, but in a relatively playful way.
From a positive point of view they will have highlighted to Saints and Langtree, that there are weaknesses in the stadium security. This will therefore hopefully ensure that those with more vile intent dont get into the stadium to do damage.

With regard to the turnstiles I think they are a magnificent and unique feature of the stadium. Their very openness for me evokes a stylised archway to the gods of rugby.

This is far superior to the norm were turnstiles are sunken shamefully into the stand, and appear more like portals to a dungeon than a gateway to the Saints.

Oh and Saints turnstiles have been fitted with steel security shutters. They dont appear to be yet in use, but on none matchdays the shutters will be like a portcullis to the gates of a castle.

I like your positive attitude CM, you even tried to make out that the open concourses were genius and far better than the enclosed ones, but whilst you state it is far superior to sunken turnstiles, that is simply your opinion, the fact is that some people think it looks awful.

The reason that turnstiles are usually sunken into the stands is because it looks 'right', not sure why you call that shameful.

Agree about the 28 days later guys, they do some fascinating stuff, including these photos, even if they were a touch naughty!

Re: Stadium Site pictures : Wed Oct 26, 2011 8:13 am  

Dave T wrote:

The reason that turnstiles are usually sunken into the stands is because it looks 'right', not sure why you call that shameful.

Not sure he was meaning it literally! Using it figuratively created quite an interesting image. I'm sure CM is an artist, closet or otherwise, what with his superb photos and his creative writing. I don't agree with him myself. I think they just look unfinished, and I mean that literally! Above the turnstiles might have been a good place to put the badge, against a suitably coloured metal background.

To think, though, the original plan was to keep it as it is now and not to clad it. There is nothing appealing, literally or otherwise, to 75% of the outside of the stadium building at the moment. It just looks, well, unfinished. Once the cladding is on it will look a whole lot better.

Re: Stadium Site pictures : Wed Oct 26, 2011 8:28 am  

It looks fine. The turnstiles will have metal shutters so aren't a problem. The cladding will be done, so again, will not be a problem.

Although it's been handed over by the builders, there is still a lot of work to be done. It's like when you buy a new house and the builders have left you with a waist high fence in the back garden and no flooring.

[Sadfish]

Re: Stadium Site pictures : Wed Oct 26, 2011 8:52 am  

SaintsFan wrote:

To think, though, the original plan was to keep it as it is now and not to clad it.

You say this but on the original walkthrough the stadium was clad, and the line from Saints was that it would be clad by the start of the new season.

And no one said anything different at the club, its just people on message boards making stuff up that is the problem, personally, i've no idea but that was always the party line.

Re: Stadium Site pictures : Wed Oct 26, 2011 9:09 am  

Those idiots who took the pictures could have damaged newly laid floors in every room they visited.

Re: Stadium Site pictures : Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:02 am  

Surely that's not the turnstiles finished? What's the use of building a 16 foot high wall then putting in a 6foot 6in high doorway open at the top?

[Sadfish]

Re: Stadium Site pictures : Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:26 am  

Donkey OTay wrote:

Surely that's not the turnstiles finished? What's the use of building a 16 foot high wall then putting in a 6foot 6in high doorway open at the top?

I think the CM mentioned roller shutter to go on yet.

Re: Stadium Site pictures : Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:33 am  

I would imagine there will be some form of perspex/glass/mesh enclosure. I really can't see it being possible to reach over and grab the turnstile operative.

Re: Stadium Site pictures : Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:50 am  

Sadfish wrote:

You say this but on the original walkthrough the stadium was clad, and the line from Saints was that it would be clad by the start of the new season.

And no one said anything different at the club, its just people on message boards making stuff up that is the problem, personally, i've no idea but that was always the party line.

I can't speak for anyone else, but what I put on here a few pages back is how it's panned out. So I know that the people at the forum were telling me the situation as it then was rather than how it was when we looked at the walk through presentation.

Re: Stadium Site pictures : Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:52 am  

SaintsFan wrote:

I can't speak for anyone else, but what I put on here a few pages back is exactly how it's panned out, albeit in stages. Planning permission is now with the Council for the remainder of the stadium to be clad. Had that been the original intention, planning permission would have been sought earlier and the handover would have been of a fully clad stadium with only the internal fixtures and fittings to be installed by the club.

Didn't they have to change it following concerns about wind resistance? Building projects on that scale change as they go on. Problems and issues arise and compromises are reached.