: Wed May 13, 2009 9:04 am  

Fingerposts Finest wrote:

yes i think he is good enough, i have seen many players come through over the years and he last time i saw someone with wheelers natural talent was tony myler. and i would certainly go as far as to say that he will be as good as "alexander the great"...............

Are you related to him?

: Wed May 13, 2009 9:07 am  

Fingerposts Finest wrote:

yes i think he is good enough, i have seen many players come through over the years and he last time i saw someone with wheelers natural talent was tony myler. and i would certainly go as far as to say that he will be as good as "alexander the great"...............

Never,
1) he hasn't got the pace
2) he hasn't got the football brain of Murphy
3) where is going to play?

: Wed May 13, 2009 9:22 am  

gateaux wrote:

But is he good enough yet? Yes he has a lot of potential and I am sure within a few years he will be playing for England but I think before that is even considered he needs a season of playing regularly in the first team.

How are we going to know until we try him? Surely against France that is the best time since he has already played the Dragons and so he will have an idea of what to expect.

: Wed May 13, 2009 9:25 am  

SaintsFan wrote:

How are we going to know until we try him? Surely against France that is the best time since he has already played the Dragons and so he will have an idea of what to expect.

So has Sam Tomkins, should we also play him?

: Wed May 13, 2009 9:30 am  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

So has Sam Tomkins, should we also play him?

Yes!
Player Myler and Tompkins in the halves, sink or swim time boys.
I really rate Wheeler, but at the moment there are people ahead of him at centre and stand off in England and under 23ish.

: Wed May 13, 2009 9:30 am  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

...
1) he hasn't got the pace

You clearly haven't seen him play much! On the speed tests he's done on the international squads he's been the fastest, he's also one of the fastest at Saints now.

Oh, and Murph thinks he's a fantastic player, who will be an international.

: Wed May 13, 2009 9:31 am  

Tobias wrote:

You clearly haven't seen him play much! On the speed tests he's done on the international squads he's been the fastest, he's also one of the fastest at Saints now.

I'd agree with this, he had a really good game on the wing for saints. He and Eastmond are rapid, I would think they are faster than both of our wingers.

: Wed May 13, 2009 9:41 am  

Tobias wrote:

You clearly haven't seen him play much! On the speed tests he's done on the international squads he's been the fastest, he's also one of the fastest at Saints now.

Oh, and Murph thinks he's a fantastic player, who will be an international.

I've seen quite a bit of him, and I posted on another thread he was very quick when he was younger.

However, injuries appear (IMO) to have slowed him down. Whether he can ever regain that "sharpness" I'm not sure.

Good player though, but never a Murphy.

: Wed May 13, 2009 9:54 am  

Clough is the cocker who should be given a go. Sensational kid, this lad is hot property and well worthy of a shot in an england fake team

: Wed May 13, 2009 11:13 am  

Supreme Sydney2002 wrote:

Clough is the cocker who should be given a go. Sensational kid, this lad is hot property and well worthy of a shot in an england fake team

Agree.

I think we should have England Fakes vs England Shams

Could have a potential matchup between Mace the Ace and Stuart Fielden