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Re: Saints sign 2 beasts!!!! : Fri May 29, 2015 10:22 pm  
All the Saints lads are raving about Levy after the game.
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Re: Saints sign 2 beasts!!!! : Sat May 30, 2015 2:31 am  
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Whatever it means, props with real size are a rare commodity, and any successful side needs at least one big prop, whether they play a forward oriented game or not. Add to that the fact that our scouting system has recently brought in two young athletic outside backs who are currently ripping it up at U19 level.

This news shows that we are competing nationwide and beyond for young talent, and thinking outside the box too. To put a negative spin on it is just perverse.


I agree. I mean, we can debate whether Saints' current style of play is "too conservative" or "pragmatic" etc. To be honest, it's a matter of taste.

But I think both sides of the argument must agree that without a good forward pack - there can be no success. You don't win SL titles without a competitive front six. The greatest backline in the history of the sport would be hard pressed to exert dominance over the opposing team if its forwards were being trampled in defence whilst going forward they struggling to make twenty five metres each set.

You just get more bang for your buck in the forwards. A good prop can give you twelve, perhaps fifteen years (think Jamie Peacock) of quality performances. It's much more difficult for backs. Usually they aren't the biggest, strongest guys to begin with. How many young centres and wingers have been promoted from the academy only to be thrown around like rag dolls?

Very often they need to squeeze out every last bit of growth from their bodies before they are able to stand up to the physical rigours of professional RL. Which means they're hitting peak around the age of 23 or 24. Sure, young forwards find it difficult breaking into the first team, too. But if you're already 6'2 and 16.5 stones at the age of 20 - not having experienced your final growth stage at 23 is no great issue. Scully is a fine example. He really didn't hit absolute peak until he fleshed out at 23. But the important point is that up until 23 he was already big enough to be more than worth selecting. Compare with someone such as Makinson who up until last season I didn't think was anywhere near big enough to be a success.

The other thing about backs is that there aren't many over the age of 30 who are still playing at peak form. Joints lose their suppleness. Hamstrings tighten or are debilitated by successive injuries. Comparing the two, good forwards just hang around longer than good backs. And they certainly exert greater influence over the nature of the game.
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Re: Saints sign 2 beasts!!!! : Sat May 30, 2015 1:10 pm  
I can't remember the exact details but I'm fairly certain this isn't the first 100 yard try Nzoungou's scored in his (brief) career.
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Re: Saints sign 2 beasts!!!! : Sat May 30, 2015 2:44 pm  
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Shame the scouting system hasn't picked up some great young talent locally thats opted for other clubs.


Not letting this go are you.

Build a bridge, get over it!
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Re: Saints sign 2 beasts!!!! : Sat May 30, 2015 2:50 pm  
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Knowles is from Cumbria, Levy from Toulouse, Grace and Wellington from South Wales, Micah from Sydney. Saints looking further afield for talent.

So many positive players at the minute. Grace, Wellington, Richardson, Bailey in the backs and Knowles, Davies, Morris, Smith in the forwards. Not to mention Spedding (who was called up to the latest English team)

Saints put a ad in the reporter months back asking for families to get in touch if they could house juniors who play for Saints who live quite far away, seems like Saints scouting team are doing the business.


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Re: Saints sign 2 beasts!!!! : Sat May 30, 2015 2:59 pm  
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Not letting this go are you.

Build a bridge, get over it!



I've only stated that we've missed out on some good local saints lads. Make a ice cube and chill.
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Re: Saints sign 2 beasts!!!! : Sat May 30, 2015 3:07 pm  
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I've only stated that we've missed out on some good local saints lads. Make a ice cube and chill.


St Pete and Noel Cleal, down with the kids :lol:

Who are these lads you are talked about and who has picked them up? Then when they are Super League players you can say "I told you so".
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Re: Saints sign 2 beasts!!!! : Sat May 30, 2015 3:15 pm  
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St Pete and Noel Cleal, down with the kids :lol:

Who are these lads you are talked about and who has picked them up? Then when they are Super League players you can say "I told you so".


Not sure on all the names mate as I know them from watching amatuer rugby and talking to the coaches etc.

I know about 3 from brook went to wigsn (on 1st june), the lad from clock who plays fullback.

The is a kid ive been banging on about for long time who had Warrington, Widnes, leeds after him who is a saints fan. His name is barnes. Everyone I talk to about him tells me he's special. Few saints lads watched him in a semi final and all raving about him. One player said "he looks like a once a decade of a player that only come around every ten or so years".

I'm not sure but I believe Barnes went to Widnes or Warrington I can't remember which.
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Re: Saints sign 2 beasts!!!! : Sat May 30, 2015 7:22 pm  
Joe McSpirit is the lad from clock face, great player.
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Joe McSpirit is the lad from clock face, great player.




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