Re: Rumours thread. : Sat Jul 28, 2012 4:51 pm  

St pete wrote:

Your correct, we was helped out big time by the video ref but how you can question the effort, desire and heart in that game is laughable.

I didn't question anything. I just said we won thanks to Agent Smith.

Re: Rumours thread. : Sat Jul 28, 2012 4:53 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

I didn't question anything. I just said we won thanks to Agent Smith.

I didn't see agent smith make any tackles.

Re: Rumours thread. : Sat Jul 28, 2012 4:54 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

I didn't question anything. I just said we won thanks to Agent Smith.

Swings and roundabouts - Puletua should NEVER have been sent off hence we should've had the ball in the 1st place.

I prefer to focus on the positives of a very resilient display.

Re: Rumours thread. : Sat Jul 28, 2012 4:56 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

But as McManus's Right Hand Man, I would imagine Rush would be listened to regardless of or in addition to Brown, given that Brown has yet to work with the players?

Why? Rush won't be accountable NEXT year so why would he have any say at all about who goes and stays? This season's performances, player issues et al - absolutely and that's the right way to work as Rush is the boss as you say - this year. Transfer targets for next year are and should be the domain of Brown and McManus so if the player wanting a transfer doesn't feature in Brown's plans then it's his call; regardless of what Rush says or thinks.

If that's not the case then I cannot see Brown having accepted the job in the first place (despite the fact I still think there's a level chance he won't be here....)

Re: Rumours thread. : Sat Jul 28, 2012 4:57 pm  

St pete wrote:

I didn't see agent smith make any tackles.

Nope, but without his decision we would have lost and that really is a numerical fact. People might have felt differently about our resilience had the decision gone against us. In fact, I think a few people would have been on Makinson's case about not catching the ball!

Re: Rumours thread. : Sat Jul 28, 2012 4:59 pm  

Allez wrote:

Why? Rush won't be accountable NEXT year so why would he have any say at all about who goes and stays?

McManus trusts Rush and given that Brown should have been focusing on Hudds for the rest of the season (even though he obviously now isn't!), I would imagine McManus would have taken the advice of someone he trusts over someone he has yet to even work with. But it was something I was just putting out there as a possibility.

Re: Rumours thread. : Sat Jul 28, 2012 6:04 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

But as McManus's Right Hand Man, I would imagine Rush would be listened to regardless of or in addition to Brown, given that Brown has yet to work with the players?

I am sure bown will have had long discussions with rush and KC about the players, and will certainly take account of their views. But in the end it is brown who will select the team next year, with little or no input from rush, so if he sees no future for tge likes of foster or Gaskell then they may as well head for tge exit now. Equally, if he sees something in them that rush doesn't then he will let them know that they will figure in his plans.

Re: Rumours thread. : Sat Jul 28, 2012 7:52 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

Nope, but without his decision we would have lost and that really is a numerical fact. People might have felt differently about our resilience had the decision gone against us. In fact, I think a few people would have been on Makinson's case about not catching the ball!

It isn't fact, it's speculation. We was up 19-14 and the Catalans try was scored near the touchline, it isn't certain Dureau would have kicked it. In fact statistics dictate he is more likely to miss it from that position and under pressure.

You can't claim it to be numerical fact as Dureau may have missed the kick, it is indeed speculation. A lot of people, including yourself, seem to be forgetting that. Not to mention there was still 6 minutes left and anything could have happened.

Re: Rumours thread. : Sat Jul 28, 2012 8:15 pm  

BackrowSaint wrote:

It isn't fact, it's speculation. We was up 19-14 and the Catalans try was scored near the touchline, it isn't certain Dureau would have kicked it. In fact statistics dictate he is more likely to miss it from that position and under pressure.

You can't claim it to be numerical fact as Dureau may have missed the kick, it is indeed speculation. A lot of people, including yourself, seem to be forgetting that. Not to mention there was still 6 minutes left and anything could have happened.

Saintsfan has never been one to let facts get in the way of a good argument.

Re: Rumours thread. : Sat Jul 28, 2012 10:46 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

I don't see what there is to disagree about given the facts.

Yet you manage to do just that so, so often...