: Wed May 06, 2009 6:39 am  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Yes you did miss Wilkin on Saturday, but IMO you missed Cayless far more.
If Saints don't find another prop to help Graham out he'll be burnt out in three more years or less.

And you can see now why we chose to keep Prescott (and O'Carroll) over Hargreaves.

Although Hargreaves's form has been reasonable of late, I agree with you on this.

Hargreaves, although admirable in his commitment, was only ever signed as a squad man, and Maurie is still a luxury 4th prop. There's far to much resonsiblity being put an JG's shoulders and at the moment, there's only Clough who seems to be able to help with the really tough yards.

We need one more good heavy prop. We've lost Anderson, Fozzard and pretty much Cayless overthe past 3 years. If we signed a Luke Bailey, I reckon we'd be in much better stead.

: Wed May 06, 2009 7:12 am  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Yes you did miss Wilkin on Saturday, but IMO you missed Cayless far more.
If Saints don't find another prop to help Graham out he'll be burnt out in three more years or less.

And you can see now why we chose to keep Prescott (and O'Carroll) over Hargreaves.

Prescott looks like a decent player for the future, he's a big lad too.

: Wed May 06, 2009 12:34 pm  

how can anyone not rate Jon? he's the complete back rower and offers so much verastility not only terms of position but also stlye of play.

i am shocked!

: Wed May 06, 2009 12:38 pm  

~ No1 Saints Fan ~ wrote:

Prescott looks like a decent player for the future, he's a big lad too.

How big do you have to be to be classed as a "unit"?

: Wed May 06, 2009 12:39 pm  

lurchio wrote:

how can anyone not rate Jon? he's the complete back rower and offers so much verastility not only terms of position but also stlye of play.

i am shocked!

Correctermundo, there can be no argument if there are only facts to support one side
Is he back this weekend?

: Wed May 06, 2009 1:52 pm  

Joynty11 wrote:

Cayless hasnt been playing well since 2007

Not perhaps by his standards, but even in his limited appearences this season, you'd see him manage some good yards per drive even in heavy traffic, and even though he wasn't playing extended minutes, it did help us alot. He's also a big figure in defence compared to the likes of Hargreaves.

: Wed May 06, 2009 4:14 pm  

Wilkin won't play this weekend and the week after at Catalans in the league game. Gilmour a major doubt for this weekend also.

: Wed May 06, 2009 4:17 pm  

St_Maca wrote:

Wilkin won't play this weekend and the week after at Catalans in the league game. Gilmour a major doubt for this weekend also.

Oh. No.

: Wed May 06, 2009 4:19 pm  

St_Maca wrote:

Wilkin won't play this weekend and the week after at Catalans in the league game. Gilmour a major doubt for this weekend also.

If Wheeler's fit get him in the centres and we won't miss much (if anything) compared with Gilmour.

Wilkin is a big miss though.

: Wed May 06, 2009 4:28 pm  

Catalans are missing a few.
Bird, Bosc, Ryles and Croker