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Re: Foster leaving? : Sun Aug 14, 2011 10:22 am  
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Also, just think if we didn't have Jamie this year I'd say we'd be 4th or 5th in the league.

and thats what a difference a good kicker can make. He'd be worth it if he was an average superleague player, but IMO hes better than that
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Re: Foster leaving? : Sun Aug 14, 2011 10:27 am  
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and thats what a difference a good kicker can make. He'd be worth it if he was an average superleague player, but IMO hes better than that


Hes a good finisher, good goal kicker and is pretty safe although he's looked bit dodgy under kicks over last few weeks.

He's not a great super league player and will only ever be a average winger but he's a points machine.

Just a shame he can't beat a man or have genuine pace.
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Re: Foster leaving? : Sun Aug 14, 2011 10:30 am  
I love it when people say "If he wasn't such a good kicker he'd be an average winger"

Ok but HE IS a good kicker so what's your argument.

Briers would only be an average half back if he didn't read the game like he does now.
Cunningham would have been an average hooker if he wasn't so strong.
Offiah would have been an average winger if he wasn't has quick as everyone else

To the Pie fans aiming slights at Foster, *cough* Botica *cough*
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Re: Foster leaving? : Sun Aug 14, 2011 10:52 am  
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I love it when people say "If he wasn't such a good kicker he'd be an average winger"

Ok but HE IS a good kicker so what's your argument.

Briers would only be an average half back if he didn't read the game like he does now.
Cunningham would have been an average hooker if he wasn't so strong.
Offiah would have been an average winger if he wasn't has quick as everyone else

To the Pie fans aiming slights at Foster, *cough* Botica *cough*


The is a difference in the comparisons you've made above to be honest. Goal kicking and playing are two completely different things.

It is possible to beca great goal kicker yet a average player.
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Re: Foster leaving? : Sun Aug 14, 2011 11:12 am  
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Hope not, remember when Long & Wellens were kicking the other season cost us a load of missed points, go easy fella's this is my first post.


Against Wakefield if my memory serves me well.
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Re: Foster leaving? : Sun Aug 14, 2011 11:16 am  
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Against Wakefield if my memory serves me well.


Wello missed a easy kick at home in a loss to Wakefield.
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Re: Foster leaving? : Sun Aug 14, 2011 11:21 am  
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Wello missed a easy kick at home in a loss to Wakefield.


Just the one? I seem to remember a match when he missed two or three kickable ones when we narrowly got beat in awful conditions.
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Re: Foster leaving? : Sun Aug 14, 2011 11:30 am  
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The is a difference in the comparisons you've made above to be honest. Goal kicking and playing are two completely different things.

You are missing the point of what Yed is saying. Don't focus on the bits he is pointing out but the fact that without those bits they simply would not have been the players they were. Saying Jamie is average without his kicking and finishing is as pointless as saying that Longy would have been average without his rugby smarts or drop goal kicking or whatever. People are stating the obvious but pointlessly so because the statement applies equally to all sportspeople who have a talent.

Jamie is talented and it is his goal kicking and finishing and ability to read a game that make him talented. Those qualities make him a must for our first team.

As indeed is his endurance. The lad hasn't missed a game since he started in the first team halfway through last season. So there is another plus for him.

Oh, and his tackling has come on very well under Simmons. Some of his tackling against blokes twice his size on Friday night was awesome.

A winger isn't just a speedster. He has to be a lot more than that, and Foster is developing well. Don't forget that he is only in his first full year at first grade.
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Re: Foster leaving? : Sun Aug 14, 2011 11:32 am  
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Just the one? I seem to remember a match when he missed two or three kickable ones when we narrowly got beat in awful conditions.

He missed about six goals against Wakey at Knowsley Road. That is, he missed them all. We had no kicker at all that night and I remember thinking that Potter was cruel to let Wello continue. Wakey won because we couldn't convert a single try.

Thankfully we now have a few goal kickers in the team. Foster, Makinson and Lomax can all kick. Wheeler can boot one in a blue moon over too. I think Gaskell can kick goals as well.
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Re: Foster leaving? : Sun Aug 14, 2011 11:48 am  
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