Re: Meli ???? : Sat Oct 08, 2011 11:47 pm  

As i posted on a different thread on a different forum

What cost us tonight was a mixture of things,poor tactics,poor discipline giving away penalties on the last tackle is a sin.Poor choices when in possetion,lack of creativety in the halves ( and please dont think im knocking Lomax and Gaskel but tonight they showed exactly what they are and thats inexperienced ) 4 repeat sets and we cant score,the forwards lacking any real punch,our lack of plan b ( again ) stop Roby you stop us,poor tackling.Our injuries they really threw us at a time we looked good.These are why we lost tonight doesnt matter what people think about Meli or Moore the whole team lost the game tonight.

Re: Meli ??????????????????????????????????????????????????? : Sat Oct 08, 2011 11:52 pm  

St pete wrote:

Ey?

wheeler at SO

Re: Meli ???? : Sun Oct 09, 2011 12:35 am  

brook40 wrote:

As i posted on a different thread on a different forum

What cost us tonight was a mixture of things,poor tactics,poor discipline giving away penalties on the last tackle is a sin.Poor choices when in possetion,lack of creativety in the halves ( and please dont think im knocking Lomax and Gaskel but tonight they showed exactly what they are and thats inexperienced ) 4 repeat sets and we cant score,the forwards lacking any real punch,our lack of plan b ( again ) stop Roby you stop us,poor tackling.Our injuries they really threw us at a time we looked good.These are why we lost tonight doesnt matter what people think about Meli or Moore the whole team lost the game tonight.

There was little wrong with our tactics - we just lack spark with 2 inexperienced halfs to try anything more advanced than 5 bashes and kick deep at the moment frankly. Those tactics were winning us the game handily after all, and it was only bonehead penalties, an injury and Rob Burrow that ultimately lost us it. If Burrow (or a fit/on form Pryce/Eastmond...) had been in a Saints shirt tonight then those tactics would have won us it by 20.

C'est la vie anyway... I'm off to pretend that the sport of Rugby League doesn't exist for the next 4 months and then... New stadium time!!! Bring it on!!!

Re: Meli ???? : Sun Oct 09, 2011 6:38 am  

OK Meli was not the only one at fault. To start with when shenton got injured we had given up our domiinance already.

We took that kick from half way. Then followed it up with two penalties to drag Leeds kicking and screaming from defending their own goal line straight back to our own line. Then Shenton got injured.

With hindsight only

Maybe Royce should have move meli back to fosters centre and put Wheeler and makinson back on the wing. FB would be the issue then. But lomax to fb and wilkin to half back with dixon in the pack.

Hind sight is brill. Would have taken a minute or two to sort out but would have left us less exposed.

The hall try from a meli point of view was terrible. He dropped back on the third tackle. This gave burrows everything to run at. When burrows shifted to that wing he did not race forwards to cover the hole he left leaving us totally out numbered. Then he played like a FB backing off Burrows not needed at all. Then he took a dummy leaving the actual FB with two guys to tackle as Meli totally missed hall. The least he could have done after taking the dummy was to take out hall and give a penalty. In the end it was an easy stroll for hall.

All in all the penalties cost us as it gave Leeds very easy feild posistion in both halves. They very rarely worked the ball into our half with out a penalty from us. But this territory was nulified mostly by good defence until shenton left us.

So not totally melis fault but was the oppertune man to go for once our penalties put Leeds in position. Sinfeild is no fool and its no coincidence they just loaded that wing from there on in.

Re: Meli ???? : Sun Oct 09, 2011 6:52 am  

brook40 wrote:

The other games are irelivent this thread is about tonight

Really? Who'd have guessed THAT from the title?

Meli isnt the cause of our loss tonight,our forwards didnt play well enough,after an outstanding your for Lomax and Gaskel they lacked ideas and spark tonight and lets not forget stupid penalties ( Moore,Soliola and a couple of others ) also injuries.There are lots of reasons for tonight but lets just lump them all on Meli huh.I suppose that makes it easier than actually having to deal with what went wrong.

Push your bottom lip back in and dry your eyes. Contrary to your straw man argument very few people are suggesting Meli is THE cause of the defeat. But he certainly is A cause. And it's not like this hasn't happened before.

Re: Meli ???? : Sun Oct 09, 2011 7:02 am  

bewareshadows wrote:

Sinfeild is no fool and its no coincidence they just loaded that wing from there on in.

Totally right. Once he saw what we had on that edge he knew that Christmas had arrived.

Re: Meli ???? : Sun Oct 09, 2011 7:11 am  

brook40 wrote:

As i posted on a different thread on a different forum

What cost us tonight was a mixture of things,poor tactics,poor discipline giving away penalties on the last tackle is a sin.Poor choices when in possetion,lack of creativety in the halves ( and please dont think im knocking Lomax and Gaskel but tonight they showed exactly what they are and thats inexperienced ) 4 repeat sets and we cant score,the forwards lacking any real punch,our lack of plan b ( again ) stop Roby you stop us,poor tackling.Our injuries they really threw us at a time we looked good.These are why we lost tonight doesnt matter what people think about Meli or Moore the whole team lost the game tonight.

Exactly mate. I think inexperience in in the halves cost us tonight. We had good field position but took wring options, especially Gaskell. I'm not knocking them at all because they have been fantastic but that's what you'll get with inexperience in the halves.

Our kicking game was awful, for some reason Gaskell was kicking the ball with the outside of his boot.

Leeds was there for the taking and we didn't do it. To many times this year against big teams we've dominated in possession and field position but not put the points on the board.

We will learn from last night and should make us a better team.

Re: Meli ???? : Sun Oct 09, 2011 7:13 am  

SaintsFan wrote:

Totally right. Once he saw what we had on that edge he knew that Christmas had arrived.

Totally correct. I posted the same thing on another thread last night.

You've got to take your hat off to Leeds tho, they exploited that side and took full advantage.

Re: Meli ???? : Sun Oct 09, 2011 7:19 am  

St pete wrote:

You've got to take your hat off to Leeds tho, they exploited that side and took full advantage.

Not really. Any team would have done the same, including us.

Re: Meli ???? : Sun Oct 09, 2011 7:22 am  

SaintsFan wrote:

Not really. Any team would have done the same, including us.

It's that easy is it?

Shame we didn't exploit ablett all night who's postional play in defence isn't great.

They saw our weakness and punished us.