: Wed Apr 22, 2009 12:37 pm  

Eurob0y wrote:

in your opinion

and i bet if you conducted a poll, most would go for long as the better scrum half, hence why most people have chosen him in this thread.

IMO Bobby was a more gifted player, but his demons ruined him

: Wed Apr 22, 2009 12:46 pm  

Saint Simon wrote:

IMO Bobby was a more gifted player, but his demons ruined him

There you see!

Bobby was a better pure Scrum Half - Long possibly a better player but that wasn't the question - or was it - I forget now......

: Wed Apr 22, 2009 12:49 pm  

Saint Simon wrote:

IMO Bobby was a more gifted player, but his demons ruined him

I'd agree with that. Goulding was a better all round scrum half than Long IMO but what Long has done in the 7 shirt for Saints dwarfes Gouldings achievements. We can't forget that Bobbie lead us to our first championship in 20 odd years but Long has continued that success and shown far more dedication to the club than Goulding ever did.

I also agree twith the point RE: Martyn/Pryce. It's a gnat's whisker between the pair of them for me and if Pryce stays fit and ends his career at Saints then I would imagine he'll overtake Martyn in years to come.

: Wed Apr 22, 2009 12:55 pm  

Saint Simon wrote:

Does anyone not put

1 wello

I would say there is little debate that these 4 are stand out players in their position. Anyone have a different oppinion?

I went for Prescott at 1. Would I argue he was a better full back? No, although he was an excellant player.

Prescott was, for me, an absolute pleasure to watch. There aren't many guys that made the entry money worth while as easiliy as he did.

As for anyone who doubt tommy Martyn's entry - there's been plenty of times were he's carried a lot of weight on his shoulders (including underperforming half back partners) and when he was fit and firing, we swept all before for us.

: Wed Apr 22, 2009 2:58 pm  

The thing about Tommy Martyn is that he was a great great player for the Saints, but what made everyone love him so much was his character as much as his rugby brain.

Would Pryce ever mischievously kick a spare ball further onto the pitch to put the opposition off at a tap penalty? Or more to the point, would he get interviewed after the game with a big silly grin on his face and claim it was the foot of God? For me it's stuff like this and his obvious love of the game that will leave Tommy tattooed on my rugby memory for ever. Pryce will probably go on to be more successful in his career and win far more medals with the Saints but people will never talk about him with the same warmth and affection as they do about Tommy.

: Wed Apr 22, 2009 2:59 pm  

Harry Pinner wrote:

The thing about Tommy Martyn is that he was a great great player for the Saints, but what made everyone love him so much was his character as much as his rugby brain.

Would Pryce ever mischievously kick a spare ball further onto the pitch to put the opposition off at a tap penalty? Or more to the point, would he get interviewed after the game with a big silly grin on his face and claim it was the foot of God? For me it's stuff like this and his obvious love of the game that will leave Tommy tattooed on my rugby memory for ever. Pryce will probably go on to be more successful in his career and win far more medals with the Saints but people will never talk about him with the same warmth and affection as they do about Tommy.

Plus, they'll never erect a statue of Pryce in Rio

: Wed Apr 22, 2009 3:10 pm  

Ski wrote:

Plus, they'll never erect a statue of Pryce in Rio

Thats Tommy's son

Re: Best Saints 17 in Super League History! : Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:22 pm  

Joynty11 wrote:

Ade Gardner has dramatically improved his game no end since he joined us. Admittley in his early career with us some of his defensive play was utterly appaulling infact at times non existant but he has improved beyond belief and is probably now the best Super League Winger in the competition

darren albert, joey hayes, anthony sullivan, sunbed, anthony stewart, sean hoppe, chris smith, faumati all better than this muppet!!! he's rubbish, remember a semi-final against hull?? if any other superleague manager had the brain of john kear they'd do the same as hull did to us that day, he's dire

Re: Best Saints 17 in Super League History! : Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:24 pm  

saints75wigan0 wrote:

darren albert, joey hayes, anthony sullivan, sunbed, anthony stewart, sean hoppe, chris smith, faumati all better than this muppet!!! he's rubbish, remember a semi-final against hull?? if any other superleague manager had the brain of john kear they'd do the same as hull did to us that day, he's dire

Utter nonsense chappie.

I'd take Gardner over all those except Sullivan (only due to pace) and Albert.

: Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:32 pm  

the best 17

1 Paul wellens
2 Darren Albert
3 Jamie Lyon
4 Paul Newlove
5 Anthony Sullivan
20 Tommy Martyn
7 Bobbie Goulding
8 Apollo Perelini
9 Keiron Cunningham
10 David Fairleigh
11 Chris Joynt
12 Paul Sculthorpe
13 John Wilkin

14 Sean Long
15 Derek Mcvey
16 James Graham
17 James Roby