: Sat May 02, 2009 7:41 am  

THELAST3YARDS wrote:

Who says Giants would want to keep him?

They have David Faiumu (sp?) and Shaun Lunt and also Keal Carlisle coming through as well.

Good point, well made

: Sat May 02, 2009 7:52 am  

If the best want to stay, then they stay, fairly simple.

Cunningham is one of the best players i have seen since watching rugby league.

His contribution to the team hasn't dropped, his work rate is still up there and his defence is as good as always.

If he wants to stay, it's a no brainer.

: Sat May 02, 2009 8:31 am  

St pete wrote:

Every young player has potential but not everyone makes it.

Anyway round it we will never ever replace kc.

Your right no one can replace Cunningham but so far Moore looks like being the next best thing.

: Sat May 02, 2009 8:36 am  

One things for sure it will be a sad day when kc retires.

Would have loved him to have won a man of steel.

I think only injurys robbed him of a man of steel.

Saints have got to keep him on in some role.

: Sat May 02, 2009 8:38 am  

McClennan wrote:

Why is everyone assuming that Moore wants to come back? If he's the main man at Hudds why would he want to come back and play second fiddle to Roby? Hudds may well be able to offer him more money than we can. It wouldn't surprise me if Moore plumped for staying with the Giants.

A lot will depend on when his contract finishes, to have him out on loan in his last season on contract is a pretty major mistake IMO. If we had no intention of bringing him back, we should have just released him.

: Sat May 02, 2009 8:41 am  

I don't think he out of contract until end of 2010 season.

: Sat May 02, 2009 8:47 am  

When KC does retire from playing, it won't be the last we see of him. I'm sure he'll get a coaching role at Saints.

: Sat May 02, 2009 8:53 am  

Whoever replaces KC will have a hard job, always compared to the best british player in a generation and quite possibly ever in his position is not an easy act to follow.

: Sat May 02, 2009 9:07 am  

OoOGazOoO wrote:

If the best want to stay, then they stay, fairly simple.

Cunningham is one of the best players i have seen since watching rugby league.

His contribution to the team hasn't dropped, his work rate is still up there and his defence is as good as always.

If he wants to stay, it's a no brainer.

So if Paul Sculthorpe wanted a new contract then we should have given him one? He was the best loose forward I've seen since watching RL.

Past performance means nothing, as others have said, time is starting to catch up with Cunningham and mistakes are starting to be made that weren't before. You say his defence is as good as ever?

Cunningham - Total tackles 254, missed 32, 12% missed
Roby - Total tackles - 300, missed 12, 4% missed
Newton - T 354, MT 28, 8%
Randall - T 320, MT 25, 7%
Diskin - T 260, MT 24, 9%
Buderus - T 111, MT 6, 5%
Riddell - T 277, MT 13, 4%

Some of those have played less games and made more tackles, time on the pitch is a factor that hasn't been brought into this, but on sheer numbers the idea that his defence is as good as ever is a fallacy.

He does bring other factors to the team, such as experience, but lets stop looking at this through redvee tinted spectacles. Even he would admit that he isn't the player he used to be.

: Sat May 02, 2009 9:21 am  

Those stats so not include the dummy-half ball distribution. KC runs the show from dummy half like Jimmy Lowes did for Bradford.