Re: Matty Smith : Wed Sep 08, 2010 7:24 pm  

your deluded i'm afraid, I watch smith every week for Salford and the guy can only pass one way, poor distribution and considering he was on the books at Everton his kicking game is very average. However he does poses some pace and Shaun must have seen something in him for the future, I for one cannot and feel Ratchford is a hell of a lot better.

good luck for the playoffs hope you win it and beat the pies in the final!!

Re: Matty Smith : Wed Sep 08, 2010 7:55 pm  

KMT wrote:

your deluded i'm afraid, I watch smith every week for Salford and the guy can only pass one way, poor distribution and considering he was on the books at Everton his kicking game is very average.

However, your team is rubbish overall so he isn't going to get much in the way of opportunity to do anything much is he? He was at least two years younger when at Saints and looked just fine; his kicking game especially was good. So maybe he'll do better with a better team.

Either way, he's an experienced organising halfback which can only be a step up from a second rower.

Re: Matty Smith : Wed Sep 08, 2010 8:33 pm  

As Kyle is out,Matty should definitely start on Friday.We need a bona fide scrum half out there,not a makeshift replacement.He could make a big difference to how far we go in the playoffs.
I think a big thank you is in order to both the man himself and to Salford RLFC and I hope he gets a great welcome back.

Re: Matty Smith : Wed Sep 08, 2010 9:06 pm  

Good news but people are going OTT. Matty Smith wasent good enough get a new contract at Saints. We have better players at the club. With the Experiance his got it will help us out for the play offs but people crying because he wasent signed on a long term deal are clearly deluded/

Re: Matty Smith : Wed Sep 08, 2010 9:18 pm  

All year I've been berating anyone who would listen that we shouldn't have let Matty go.

The club initially offered a 12 months contract to Longy so obviously the intention was to go through the season with three half backs, Longy turned it down so for me the logical step was to keep Matty instead.

I'm not saying he's a superstar or he is going to be some kind of saviour, but it is often quite rightly stated that the modern game is a squad game and Matty is a good lad to have in your squad.

Obviously I hope he gets his chance and does well for us and I hope he proves me right.

Re: Matty Smith : Wed Sep 08, 2010 10:52 pm  

Chief Scout wrote:

Good news but people are going OTT. Matty Smith wasent good enough get a new contract at Saints.

But he's good enough to help us out at playoff time? What's changed then?

Do you think Saints would recall Ste Tyrer if we were short of a winger or centre?

Re: Matty Smith : Wed Sep 08, 2010 11:00 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

But he's good enough to help us out at playoff time? What's changed then?

Do you think Saints would recall Ste Tyrer if we were short of a winger or centre?

No, because we have Wingers in the U20's that could do a better job. Lee Gaskell and Ellis are not ready for Super League so it makes sense to recall Matty and i have every faith he'll do a decent job for us.

Lets not kid ourselves here this is a guy who was very lucky to earn a two year deal at Salford according to their supporters who watch him ever week. People who say he would make a better Hooker than Scott Moore are clearly deluded and know nothing about the game of rugby league. Scott works overtime in defence which is something you will not get with Smith.

We have backs against the wall for this play off series and at this minute, every little helps.

Re: Matty Smith : Wed Sep 08, 2010 11:02 pm  

You also say 'Whats changed ?

Well the fact that 4 of our halfbacks who are all better than Matty are out injured. Wheeler, Lomax, Pryce and Eastmond are all twice the player Matty is.

I feel as if im slating the lad (im honestly no) i'm just being realistic here. People need to calm down.

Re: Matty Smith : Wed Sep 08, 2010 11:17 pm  

Fresh Prince of Chesh-air wrote:

But your fans were saying he was brilliant after he had 1 or 2 decent performances there. His brain isn't fast enough to be a half back IMO.

It's faster than wilins so that thats an improvement.
His legs are faster as well and he can kick.

Re: Matty Smith : Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:33 am  

SaintsFan wrote:

However, your team is rubbish overall so he isn't going to get much in the way of opportunity to do anything much is he? He was at least two years younger when at Saints and looked just fine; his kicking game especially was good. So maybe he'll do better with a better team.

Either way, he's an experienced organising halfback which can only be a step up from a second rower.

Matty looks a better player when he partners Daniel Holdsworth (Class), unfortunately for us Holdsworth has missed a lot of games with injury. I think the problem he's had at Salford is he's playing behind a beaten pack most weeks that don't make enough metres (Rarely capable of getting a roll on).
Fortunately we have already signed 8 better quality players for next year and I think Matty will improve in a better team. His best game for us was undoubtedly the match v Saints at the Willows where he looked like he had a real point to prove.