: Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:38 pm  

Saint Michael wrote:

Steve Prescott's tackle on Jason Flowers at Cas won us the league

or.... Terry Matterson's touchline front on kick at CP won us the league

I think the words you're looking for are "front end, toe end"

: Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:40 pm  

Harry Pinner wrote:

The thing about Tommy Martyn is that he was ..........

fooking inconsistent.

: Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:41 pm  

saintc wrote:

fooking inconsistent.

bit like sean long who everyone seems to be raving about on here

: Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:45 pm  

saints75wigan0 wrote:

bit like sean long who everyone seems to be raving about on here

Long has consistently been the top halfback in the league for many a year. If he's that inconsistent then how did he win a Man of Steel or player of the year?

: Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:48 pm  

Saint Simon wrote:

IMO Bobby was a more gifted player, but his demons ruined him

You can't rule out the mental side of the game and go on skills alone, it's the whole package that makes the player.

Long has won us trophies for a far longer period than Goulding did. There can be only one choice in a team of the SL era.

: Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:51 pm  

saints75wigan0 wrote:

bit like sean long who everyone seems to be raving about on here

He's been consistently excellent over the course of a season for over 10 years now, unless you are talking about odd games, but if that's the case you can rule everyone out.

: Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:59 pm  

Billinge_Lump wrote:

You can't rule out the mental side of the game and go on skills alone, it's the whole package that makes the player.

Long has won us trophies for a far longer period than Goulding did. There can be only one choice in a team of the SL era.

I agree with you, but Longy had more support from the club when he needed it (gamblegate) than Bobbie did

: Wed Apr 22, 2009 7:02 pm  

1. Paul Wellens
2. Darren Albert
3. Jamie Lyon
4. Paul Newlove
5. Anthony Sullivan
20. Tommy Martyn
7. Sean Long
8. Darren Britt
9. Keiron Cunningham
10. David Fairleigh
11. Chris Joynt
12. Lee Gilmour
13. Paul Sculthorpe

Subs

14. James Roby
15. James Graham
16. Fereti Tuilagi (for the wigs alone!)
17. Paul Anderson

: Wed Apr 22, 2009 7:02 pm  

There can be no debate over Long or Goulding.

Goulding had all the tools to be one of the best SH this country has ever produced and chose not to use them, he blew it basically.

Long has worked at it so he has all those tools and consistently been great for Saints, hence his individual accolades and his trophy haul.

: Wed Apr 22, 2009 7:15 pm  

If you are asking for consistency, Longy is your man, if you wanted a blinding short flash of superb team carrying scrum half play then Goulding would be your choice.

We have been spoiled with having these two from the start of Super League, the next in the 7 shirt has a huge gap to fill eventually.

How many other teams would love to have had the choice of these two at their best.
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