: Sat May 02, 2009 9:26 am  

Perfect Pimbletts Pies wrote:

Those stats so not include the dummy-half ball distribution. KC runs the show from dummy half like Jimmy Lowes did for Bradford.

Moore's distribution is improving quite quickly. I'm with the more progressive and forward thinking types. Our priority is securing our future and if that means sacrificing KC instead of having him for one more season I'm for that. Somebody has alluded to Wayne Bennett's approach to improving sides and taking short-term sacrifices for long-term gain. That is the only way to deal with this situation. We cannot be sentimental despite KC's legendary status. He's already getting a statue as it is

: Sat May 02, 2009 9:42 am  

McClennan wrote:

Moore's distribution is improving quite quickly. I'm with the more progressive and forward thinking types. Our priority is securing our future and if that means sacrificing KC instead of having him for one more season I'm for that. Somebody has alluded to Wayne Bennett's approach to improving sides and taking short-term sacrifices for long-term gain. That is the only way to deal with this situation. We cannot be sentimental despite KC's legendary status. He's already getting a statue as it is

I agree with this, KC could probably give us another reasonable season after this, but what then, we're scuppered! For a player only on the pitch for around 40 mins a game he shouldnt be missing to many tackles. He is a legend, but time waits for no man

: Sat May 02, 2009 10:02 am  

Just read the first few posts.

Are you lot insane??????

We should let KC go, Reduced contract.

I hope the board dont look at it the same way.

We need to keep the King going as long as we can.
And I think a reduced contract would be a bit of an insult to the greatest player of the SL era.
He already took a pay cut to stay a few years back

: Sat May 02, 2009 10:09 am  

Perfect Pimbletts Pies wrote:

Those stats so not include the dummy-half ball distribution. KC runs the show from dummy half like Jimmy Lowes did for Bradford.

Well no, considering they are solely to do with defence

: Sat May 02, 2009 10:15 am  

saintcj wrote:

Just read the first few posts.

Are you lot insane??????

We should let KC go, Reduced contract.

I hope the board dont look at it the same way.

We need to keep the King going as long as we can.

That kind of attitude would see us in Wigans and Bradfords position within 5 years.

And I think a reduced contract would be a bit of an insult to the greatest player of the SL era.
He already took a pay cut to stay a few years back

That was when no one else within a whisker of winning anything would touch him as he's had a couple of poor injury plagued seasons.

Let's be honest, he's a professional that's taken the club for everything he can, as he should.

: Sat May 02, 2009 12:00 pm  

saintcj wrote:

Just read the first few posts.

Are you lot insane??????

We should let KC go, Reduced contract.

I hope the board dont look at it the same way.

We need to keep the King going as long as we can.
And I think a reduced contract would be a bit of an insult to the greatest player of the SL era.
He already took a pay cut to stay a few years back

Given a choice between Keiron at 33 next year or Moore for the next 10 years, i'd have to take Moore

: Sat May 02, 2009 5:08 pm  

Billinge_Lump wrote:

So if Paul Sculthorpe wanted a new contract then we should have given him one? He was the best loose forward I've seen since watching RL.

Great example pal.

: Sat May 02, 2009 5:39 pm  

Progression > Traditionalists

: Mon May 04, 2009 9:03 am  

jonnythesaint wrote:

I think I've seen a few small signs of old father time beginning to catch up with KC already this season. He's nowhere near the payer he was defensively, I think he's missed more tackles this season than he as in his entire career. I also feel that he seems to feel it more when he gets hit these days. I can't see him wanting to put his body through another year of it.

To be fair to him, though, if he called it a day now, he wouldn't owe Saints a penny.

After Reading this comment I thought I'd watch kc very close against the pies.
I also watched the bulls game again from last week.

And I agree kc is looking like time as caught up with him. He is missing a hell of alot of tackles!

Also he seems to be playing less and less game time each week.

Here's hope it's just a poor run of form.

: Mon May 04, 2009 10:01 am  

Last few weeks especially, his passing from dummy half has been absolutely shocking. His passing has never been hes best asset, but last few weeks it's been rubbish.