: Thu Mar 12, 2009 1:53 pm  

Offside Monkey wrote:

Is it not harder for youngsters these days though, with the extra conditioning that the senior players have?

Also, those players were all very physically strong individuals.

Does not seem to impair the Aussies who have a fine record of developing excellent young players of the calibre of Inglis, Folau etc etc...

: Thu Mar 12, 2009 5:37 pm  

eddiewaringsflatcap wrote:

Thanks for the insight.

Do people actually remember Scully was already looking the dogs do-dahs in the Warrington team at 17, though? The same with Judas at the same age when he was at Saints, and again with Cunningham who began to look a star form 18 in a struglging outfit (circa 93/94).

You could tell they were a cut above.

It was a world of difference toa youngster carving his way in reserve rugby. OK you can point to late starters like Long, but generally you can tell who the 'real deals' will be as opposed to very good club players.

I don't think anyone thought he would be better than scully but a very good replacement.

The is certain players from the super league era that I don't think we will ever replace proper, I.e long, scully, cunningam and joynt to name but a few

: Thu Mar 12, 2009 7:27 pm  

Harborne Saint wrote:

Complete waffle

You can't have team full of highly noticeable impact players and never will under the system of a salry cap.

Wilkin is a great player for us. Very solid and dependable. He compared well with other 13s in SL so what more do you want?

Which part is complete waffle?

I have clearly stated that in my opinion Wilkin isn't performing well enough. No amount of drum beating on here is going to change my opinion.

: Thu Mar 12, 2009 8:46 pm  

Stirlingshire Saint wrote:

Which part is complete waffle?

I have clearly stated that in my opinion Wilkin isn't performing well enough. No matter of drum beating on here is going to change my opinion.

I agree

: Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:02 am  

And just to add to all that Gilly carnt stand him either.

: Fri Mar 13, 2009 5:36 pm  

Wilkin is a good player, but anyone who thought that he was ever fit to lace Sculthorpes boots were either delusional, or comparing him to the crocked second rower that he became post age 27. There isn't a loose forward currently in the British game that come anywhere near him in his prime.


His form will pick up in the summer, and we have other options coming through the academy to keep him on his toes.

: Fri Mar 13, 2009 6:17 pm  

Smurf wrote:

Wilkin is a good player, but anyone who thought that he was ever fit to lace Sculthorpes boots were either delusional, or comparing him to the crocked second rower that he became post age 27. There isn't a loose forward currently in the British game that come anywhere near him in his prime.


His form will pick up in the summer, and we have other options coming through the academy to keep him on his toes.

joe westerman

: Fri Mar 13, 2009 7:34 pm  

joe d saint wrote:

joe westerman

As good as Sculthorpe in his prime?

Give over.

: Fri Mar 13, 2009 7:37 pm  

Stirlingshire Saint wrote:

As good as Sculthorpe in his prime?

Give over.

No one was as good as Sculthorpe in his prime.

: Fri Mar 13, 2009 7:47 pm  

3rd man cheap shot merchant who runs the dummy for 10 minutes after he has dished it out and hopes everyone has forgotten about it,also a very bad loser,i was in a hotel in leeds last week for the WCC and heard him slagging off his beloved Hull KR to a couple of his hangers on at the bar saying they were garbage and only beat saints as the ref robbed them,made himself look a real fool