: Wed Apr 08, 2009 11:19 am  

Farrell was an awesome player for Wigan, were ever he played.

He never translated his form to GB though. He either got in the way and tried to be too much of a ball player, or operated in the forwards and didn't make much impact (in comparison to his play at club level).

If you compare that to somebody like Peacock, who I think plays even better when he pulls on a GB shirt.

: Wed Apr 08, 2009 11:39 am  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Farrell OBE
4 Challenge Cups
5 Championships
4 Premierships
Twice man of Steel
4 times included in Super league Dream team


Scully
4 Challenge Cups
4 Super League Grand Final Winner
2 World Club Challenge
Twice Man of Steel
3 times included in Super League Dream Team

Slightly loaded in Farrell's favour but does look more equal when laid out like this

: Wed Apr 08, 2009 11:43 am  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Youngest forward ever to be selected for Great Britain RL.
Youngest forward ever to captain Great Britain RL.
Winner of the Golden Boot.

PLUS

Farrell OBE
4 Challenge Cups
5 Championships
4 Premierships
Twice man of Steel
4 times included in Super league Dream team
For Wigan
111 tries
1326 goals
19 drop goals
3115 points.

Scully
Double MOS Winner
Super League Dream Team 2001, 2002 and 2004
Super League Grand Final Winner 1999, 2000, 2002 and 2006
Challenge Cup Winner 2001, 2004, 2006, 2007, 2008
World Club Challenge Winner 2001, 2007

Stop repeating yourself ald rogues your cracking up son.

: Wed Apr 08, 2009 11:47 am  

diehardofowld wrote:

Slightly loaded in Farrell's favour but does look more equal when laid out like this

I'm still waiting for Scullys points scoring exploits.

According to Eurob0y they are better.

And I forgot to add Farrells World Club Championship win in Brisbane.
Another first.

: Wed Apr 08, 2009 11:49 am  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

I'm still waiting for Scullys points scoring exploits.

According to Eurob0y they are better.

You know as well as everyone else here that that is a poor argument.

: Wed Apr 08, 2009 11:51 am  

Both players (Along with Peacock) are head and shoulders above almost everything we have at International level Currently.
Unfortunately the Standards in SL mean are so low that we have to watch the current crop parading around such as JJB/Wilkin/Sinfield/Westwood/Langley/Purdham etc at international level and yet were told that standards are rising year on year!

As both players played the majority of their careers at 2nd row/Loose I would be inclined to judge them on those positions.

Me personally I would have both in the team but if I had to pick one I would (Obviosuly/Biased whatever you what to Think) pick Farrell.

Teams need different types of players to make a Great Team, IMHO in Sculthorpe & Farrell you had the perfect compliment.

Both got great Hands, good kicking games, ability to make a break, run the ball in tough when it was needed.
Farrell Better defensively, Sculthorpe better attacking player.

2001 1st Test v Aus (I think 2001) sums it up for me.

Sculthorpe scores 2 x tries (And a Drop I think) and caused Aussies all kind of probs playing at 6
Farrell kicked 3 or 4 goals made about 40+ tackles and came off covered in Mud & sweat.

That was a perfect combination and one I can't see being repeated at 6 & 13 for many years ahead!

: Wed Apr 08, 2009 12:04 pm  

diehardofowld wrote:

Slightly loaded in Farrell's favour but does look more equal when laid out like this

Just about right for me!

Why can't people just agree to disagree???

If someone said to me that out of 10 Scully was a 10 & Farrell was a 9 I would'nt agree totally and I would ahve it the other way round but what is undeniable is they were both "Greats"!

When Fans of either side say they are overrated/didnt perform at International level/ couln't do this couldn't do that it is alarmingly clear that their prejudice and hatred of the other is making them spout complete drivel!

Although I am the 1st to accept I don't like St Helens you can't argue with facts and IMHO the generation of players we had 4/5/6 years ago were far better than what we have now

: Wed Apr 08, 2009 12:08 pm  

Jukesays wrote:

Why can't people just agree to disagree???

Where's the fun in that

: Wed Apr 08, 2009 12:12 pm  

Farrell is one of the greats. No bitter Saints-Wigan rivalry here. There was plenty of times I'd come away from a Saints-Wigan game, with a sick beaten feeling in my stomach thanks to him. The Murrayfield final sticks in my mind. We were favourites, but thanks to his leadership (And Lams) & his conversions they won the game despite the teams scoring 3 trys a piece.
I'm baffled as to why Union wanted him though. I'm sure they were expecting the 'Pele' of rugby. What they got was a battered, injury ridden 'end of his career' player with nothing much to offer apart from his leadership, powerful hard running & his ability to guide his team around the pitch. He wasn't able to do the latter because he was new to the game.

: Thu Apr 09, 2009 12:33 am  

Absolutely stole his money for the impact he made in RU. Then again, good on him, more fool them for ever signing him.

Also if he'd stayed in League he would have only lasted maybe two more years at prop, he was past his best and knew his time was ending which is why he left for the coin. $$$$$$$ Kerching!! How much money has he made in the last 4-5 years for very little. I can only imagine.