: Sun May 24, 2009 11:31 am  

McClennan wrote:

He wasn't picked because the coaches we appointed were useless.

He wasn't picked because he wasn't good enough.
End of story.

No matter how you try to dress it up, that was the reason.

It's like the boys brigade marching through St. Helens.

Oh look they're all out of step except our Tommy.

I can't remember, did Millward pick him for Lancashire?

: Sun May 24, 2009 11:43 am  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

He wasn't picked because he wasn't good enough.
End of story.

Name the better British stand offs during his time that you believe were keeping him out of the side. If you start with Tony Smith you'll have zero credibility on this board forever.

: Sun May 24, 2009 12:04 pm  

Between 1993 and 2003.
Edwards, Schofield, Harris, Davies, McGuire and that's without even having to think.

When do think tippling Tommy was at his best?

If as you suggest he was so good why did Hanley want rid?

You as well as I probably know the reason.

And as to his last try at Central park for the losing side, who played Tommy off the Park that day?

Chris bl88dy Chester.

That should tell you a lot about tippling Tommy. Outdone by Chester and then by Julian O'Neil.

: Sun May 24, 2009 4:12 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Between 1993 and 2003.
Edwards, Schofield, Harris, Davies, McGuire and that's without even having to think.

When do think tippling Tommy was at his best?

If as you suggest he was so good why did Hanley want rid?

You as well as I probably know the reason.

And as to his last try at Central park for the losing side, who played Tommy off the Park that day?

Chris bl88dy Chester.

So what hanley wanted rid. Is hanley a great coach that didn't make mistakes?

Hanley also wanted rid of kc if I recall.

Thank god we kept the best number 6 we have had in 10 years.

Just coz hanley was a great wigan player don't make him perfect. Let's be honest he brought in tricky to replace him!!!!

That should tell you a lot about tippling Tommy. Outdone by Chester and then by Julian O'Neil.

: Sun May 24, 2009 6:04 pm  

Danny McGuire?

The most one dimensional halfback ever

: Mon May 25, 2009 7:34 am  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Between 1993 and 2003.
Edwards, Schofield, Harris, Davies, McGuire and that's without even having to think.

Rogues Gallery wrote:

If as you suggest he was so good why did Hanley want rid?

For Trindall?! Nice argument

Rogues Gallery wrote:

And as to his last try at Central park for the losing side, who played Tommy off the Park that day?

Chris bl88dy Chester.

That should tell you a lot about tippling Tommy. Outdone by Chester and then by Julian O'Neil.

I didn't think you were one of those morons who looks at who wins game then concludes that the winning team's players are all better than their opposite number.

: Mon May 25, 2009 9:03 am  

Who scored the last ever try at Central park?

I can't remember

: Mon May 25, 2009 10:19 am  

Supersaint wrote:

Who scored the last ever try at Central park?

I can't remember

I can, it was tippling Tommy for the losing side on a day when he couldn't even get the better of Chris Chester.

: Mon May 25, 2009 10:50 am  

As I said before if he was so good why did several different coaches refuse to pick him.

Someone said that it was because he was too good

I imagine, selectors and coach having a discussion.


"No, we can't pick him, he's too good and we may win the game"

"Ah you're right"

It probably went more like this.
"What about Tommy Martyn"

"No, his defense is poor, and when the going gets tough Tommy buggers off"

I know which one is closer to the truth.

But keep your red vee tinted specs on, and eventually you'll convince yourselves that Tommy was the greatest stand off ever, scored more tries than Murphy, and won Great Britain the World Cup.

: Mon May 25, 2009 11:06 am  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

I can, it was Tommy.

End of chat!