End to end sets aren't intense games, the most intense games we've had over recent years have been against Leeds and none of them have been end to end.



If you can't play against a set defence then I'd say your skillset isn't good enough.

Perhaps Gidley wasn't fit enough to do the goal kicking? No point risking setting his injury back really.

And if we were to see the back of Potter who would you have to replace him?

Potter has been brought in as a squad builder as well as a coach. He needs time to seek out the best potential in our academy and elsewhere. We are in a transitional period, yet somehow top of the league and in the semi of the cup, with our 2nd and 3rd props long term injured, our main 7 is probably out for the season and our academy lads are picking up a few injuries, all this and we can look down from the top of the table on every other team in the league. Crisis, what crisis?

How do you think that Japanese fella feels! His was 6000!

Can't agree with that mate. Granted, Unfortunately I'm no longer in a position to make my assumptions having watched every game these days, but from what I've seen the matches lost by Saints (and Leeds) this year have been down to poor performances and not due to the improved play and intensity of the opposition.

For me that goes for Super League over all this season. Hate to have a go at our great game but the quality (and exitement) so far this year just hasn't done it for me I'm afraid.

Agree with this, i think its been a gash year so far. We have seen a few good uns on TV over the last couple of weeks, but before these close encounters its been dross. And ofcourse saints havent been red hot slick micks all year

I don't know where McClennan get's the intensity thing from either. I think the standards have genuinely got worse. No doubt the RFL will change the rules again next year when the Aussies and Kiwis whoop us at the end of the year though, so don't worry.

Exactly, the RFL will do an assessment on the future of the game, the diagnosis will be "hey we are playing Rugby like the Aussies did 5 years ago".
And the Aussies are now playing fast open Rugby, lets change the game in mid season..............then we will be ready for em.

And they'll still have half backs that can break down set defences and we still won't.

The RFL had the right idea by slowing the PTB area down. Unfortunately they went too far and have made it too slow this season. They need to find a balance with it.

That'll happen once the players adapt to it.

It doesn't help that we were one of the main exponents of the dummy half running game.

The referee's have got to adapt too.

Have you watched any NRL this season (not trying to be patronising btw)? It's fast, but it's also well controlled at the PTB which makes it difficult to break defences down.