Re: Foster leaving? : Tue Aug 16, 2011 4:05 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

What kind of X-Factor does Patricia Richards have? He scores a few from kicks, but he's no faster than Wellens and couldn't beat a man if he had a golf club and the man was asleep.

Take Richards goalkicking away and he'd be a white Ade Gardner, but dazed and confused about his nationality.

Expected better! (or perhaps not) I know it is only your opinion! but why lower yourself to the standards of others, I have heard this time and time again between Wigan and Saints fans about different players, how simply petty. Richards is a good player and when Foster is his age and has that experience he may be the same high standard!

Re: Foster leaving? : Tue Aug 16, 2011 4:09 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

He can't be on that little. He's just bought himself a Beemer!

Don't forget he still lives with his Mum. I'm sure he has plenty expendable income even if he's only on 20-30k.

Re: Foster leaving? : Tue Aug 16, 2011 4:10 pm  

jaybs wrote:

Expected better! (or perhaps not) I know it is only your opinion! but why lower yourself to the standards of others, I have heard this time and time again between Wigan and Saints fans about different players, how simply petty. Richards is a good player and when Foster is his age and has that experience he may be the same high standard!

I'm just being silly back at him in the hope he realises how silly he's being.

Anyone who says Jamie Wonder Behind the Back Try And Great Hair Foster is in any way average is clearly a fool.

Re: Foster leaving? : Tue Aug 16, 2011 4:32 pm  

I originally started the thought that Foster is a one trick pony a few months ago, and since then nothings changed my mind on that. He is very good at his one trick mind! Horatio Yed wrote: I'd rather have foster than Charnley any day of the week Well the stats below suggest Charnley is the better player, and I think most neutrals would agree with that. http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2011 Of course this is a forum where members can hold any opinion they like, no matter how wrong.

I originally started the thought that Foster is a one trick pony a few months ago, and since then nothings changed my mind on that. He is very good at his one trick mind! Horatio Yed wrote: I'd rather have foster than Charnley any day of the week Well the stats below suggest Charnley is the better player, and I think most neutrals would agree with that. http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2011 Of course this is a forum where members can hold any opinion they like, no matter how wrong.

Re: Foster leaving? : Tue Aug 16, 2011 4:41 pm  

LovesToSpooge wrote: I originally started the thought that Foster is a one trick pony a few months ago, and since then nothings changed my mind on that. He is very good at his one trick mind! Well the stats below suggest Charnley is the better player, and I think most neutrals would agree with that. http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2011 Of course this is a forum where members can hold any opinion they like, no matter how wrong. Stats mean jack s---, if you're a crap winger in a good team your stats will look better than if you're a good winger in a crap team. Not saying Saints are crap either, plus Saints this season are not as expansive as Wigan are, so the winger will get less action Besides those Stats just show Charnley has more of the ball yet also show Foster does more with it, so i'd still go Foster even when presented with those stats.

LovesToSpooge wrote: I originally started the thought that Foster is a one trick pony a few months ago, and since then nothings changed my mind on that. He is very good at his one trick mind! Well the stats below suggest Charnley is the better player, and I think most neutrals would agree with that. http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2011 Of course this is a forum where members can hold any opinion they like, no matter how wrong. Stats mean jack s---, if you're a crap winger in a good team your stats will look better than if you're a good winger in a crap team. Not saying Saints are crap either, plus Saints this season are not as expansive as Wigan are, so the winger will get less action Besides those Stats just show Charnley has more of the ball yet also show Foster does more with it, so i'd still go Foster even when presented with those stats.

Re: Foster leaving? : Tue Aug 16, 2011 5:19 pm  

Horatio Yed wrote:

Stats mean jack s---, if you're a crap winger in a good team your stats will look better than if you're a good winger in a crap team.
Not saying Saints are crap either, plus Saints this season are not as expansive as Wigan are, so the winger will get less action

"Stats mean jack sh*t" If they don't favour who you feel is better you mean?

Well first of all Saint's aren't a crap team as you so well point out. So while I do agree with your first point, it has no relevance on this match up IMO. Saints are the third best team in the comp with the third best attack.

As for Saints not being as expansive as Wigan this year, that's a fair assessment to make and one I agree with. But is it not then up to the winger to come inside and help his forwards and team mates in general by sharing the workload? One can't just stay out on the wing doing nothing. Charnley has shown his ability to break a game open in Wigan's last two CC matches. Foster was next to anonymous against Wigan except for his party piece kicking, which let Saints down IMO. Because had he converted their third try Saints would have been able to win the match with a try and goal, his miss deflated the Saints team IMO. Anyway back on topic.

Horatio Yed wrote:

Besides those Stats just show Charnley has more of the ball yet also show Foster does more with it, so i'd still go Foster even when presented with those stats.

Foster does more with ball! Granted Foster's scored a single try more and has more clean breaks, but then Foster has played a game more than Charnley.

In every other area Charnley beats Foster. If their stats were closer, and Jamie showed the ability on the field that Josh does then I could then see where your coming from. But at present I don't.

Re: Foster leaving? : Tue Aug 16, 2011 6:01 pm  

St pete wrote:

Also, just think if we didn't have Jamie this year I'd say we'd be 4th or 5th in the league.

Wigan would probably be 3rd only for the goalkicking of pat Richards. Without his goal kicking Richards would be nowhere near the player some people think he is.

Re: Foster leaving? : Tue Aug 16, 2011 6:20 pm  

Agent Mulder wrote:

Wigan would probably be 3rd only for the goalkicking of pat Richards. Without his goal kicking Richards would be nowhere near the player some people think he is.

Richards was a good try scoring winger in Australia. He wasn't picked for his goal kicking.

Re: Foster leaving? : Tue Aug 16, 2011 6:30 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Richards was a good try scoring winger in Australia. He wasn't picked for his goal kicking.

According to the ever reliable Wikipedia.

Pat only kicked four goals in his pre Wigan career. So I'm in agreement with Rogues, I think it's safe to say Richards wasn't signed for his goal kicking ability. He may well have been signed as a centre though by agent Millward.

Re: Foster leaving? : Tue Aug 16, 2011 7:22 pm  

LovesToSpooge wrote:

According to the ever reliable Wikipedia.

Pat only kicked four goals in his pre Wigan career. So I'm in agreement with Rogues, I think it's safe to say Richards wasn't signed for his goal kicking ability. He may well have been signed as a centre though by agent Millward.

He may not have been bought for his goalkicking but without it Wigan would not be in the position they are today. His goalkicking has won Wigan numerous matches. It's the combination of the wing position and his goalkicking ability that has pushed him to the fore.