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Re: The Shenton enigma. : Sat May 26, 2012 12:12 am  
Turner, Manu, Finch and that prop we should have got last year????
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Re: The Shenton enigma. : Sun May 27, 2012 9:36 am  
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Because Shenton is an in-demand player who most SL clubs would want in their squad and Hohaia probably isn't...


But he isnt in demand and most clubs dont want him in their squads. The only clubs that have been linked with him are Castleford and possibly Hull KR, hardly the creme de la creme of Super League. You talk as if Leeds, Wigan, Warrington et al are all ling up to sign him, they are not. The fact that Saints want rid says it all about how in demand he is and how he is viewed by a top club.
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Re: The Shenton enigma. : Sun May 27, 2012 11:32 am  
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The fact that Saints want rid says it all about how in demand he is and how he is viewed by a top club.

Who said we want rid? Apparently - and nobody from either club has confirmed this - Shenton has been given permission to talk to other clubs. Assuming that is true, and not just gossip, that could be because he requested permission. He may be unhappy at Saints. Or it may be that being a Dad and trecking in on the M62 almost every day, on his tod, is too much and he prefers to be closer to home. Who knows?
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Re: The Shenton enigma. : Sun May 27, 2012 5:09 pm  
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Who said we want rid? Apparently - and nobody from either club has confirmed this - Shenton has been given permission to talk to other clubs. Assuming that is true, and not just gossip, that could be because he requested permission. He may be unhappy at Saints. Or it may be that being a Dad and trecking in on the M62 almost every day, on his tod, is too much and he prefers to be closer to home. Who knows?


Quite - fact is that we don't know definitively why he wants out, or whether he does actually want out or is being pushed, or what his contract demands are, or what everyone else's salary cap situation is etc. etc. It's all speculation, What isn't speculation is the fact that a pre-Saints form Shenton would be a guaranteed starter at virtually every team in the country (and certainly at Wigan). Maybe he'll never recover that form and maybe a lot of teams don't want to take a risk that he will. As you say, we don't know. But, let's let the clueless numpties make stuff up and fantasize away - it keeps them happy, bless their deluded little minds.
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Re: The Shenton enigma. : Sun May 27, 2012 6:22 pm  
Saint Simon wrote:
:lol: :lol:


Who's laughing now as Carmont scores a try from over 80 metres out? George's class is there for all to see. Newlove better than Carmont? You've lost all touch with reality.

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Re: The Shenton enigma. : Sun May 27, 2012 6:55 pm  
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Who's laughing now as Carmont scores a try from over 80 metres out? George's class is there for all to see. Newlove better than Carmont? You've lost all touch with reality.

:lol:


The same player who was a reliably plodder his whole career in the NRL goes past Michael Shenton and is therefore class, and world class before he did that. Logic bypass.
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Badwanger wrote:
IMO, Sculthorpe at his peak was better than Hanley was at his.


nickmanator wrote:
billy boston in todays game might pinch a spot bringin the cone on and that bein kind


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Imo Sam Tomkins is a very poor mans Danny Brough he is just a average player getting bigged up by the idiots who comentate on sky.


Deano G wrote:
Jonathan Davies, who is his equal in [Super League] today?

Badwanger wrote:
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Re: The Shenton enigma. : Sun May 27, 2012 9:10 pm  
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The same player who was a reliably plodder his whole career in the NRL goes past Michael Shenton and is therefore class, and world class before he did that. Logic bypass.


The logic bypass is that the comparison is with Newlove, who just wasn't special. I know you paid a lot of money (and shipped out players) to sign him, but he was a long way from being a world beater. Carmont has been one of our best overseas signings for many years and was sensational last season. Just watch him in the Exiles game or the WCC. Newlove backed out of playing at international level. I wonder why?
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Re: The Shenton enigma. : Sun May 27, 2012 9:17 pm  
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The logic bypass is that the comparison is with Newlove, who just wasn't special. I know you paid a lot of money (and shipped out players) to sign him, but he was a long way from being a world beater. Carmont has been one of our best overseas signings for many years and was sensational last season. Just watch him in the Exiles game or the WCC. Newlove backed out of playing at international level. I wonder why?


Sorry he went past Newlove did he?

WTF has the try tonight got to do with Newlove?

Are you on drugs again?
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Badwanger wrote:
IMO, Sculthorpe at his peak was better than Hanley was at his.


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billy boston in todays game might pinch a spot bringin the cone on and that bein kind


robbierotten wrote:
Imo Sam Tomkins is a very poor mans Danny Brough he is just a average player getting bigged up by the idiots who comentate on sky.


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Jonathan Davies, who is his equal in [Super League] today?

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Wellens

Re: The Shenton enigma. : Sun May 27, 2012 9:22 pm  
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Sorry he went past Newlove did he?

WTF has the try tonight got to do with Newlove?

Are you on drugs again?
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The try tonight shows that George is still a class player, though I tend to agree that embarrassing Shenton and Wellens isn't that great an achievement... mind you, that's not Carmont's fault, all he can do is beat what's in front of him....

As for the references to Newlove, please see earlier in the thread!
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Re: The Shenton enigma. : Sun May 27, 2012 9:26 pm  
Deano G wrote:
The try tonight shows that George is still a class player, though I tend to agree that embarrassing Shenton and Wellens isn't that great an achievement... mind you, that's not Carmont's fault, all he can do is beat what's in front of him....

As for the references to Newlove, please see earlier in the thread!


You mean one post earlier:
"The logic bypass is that the comparison is with Newlove, who just wasn't special".

Had you forgot that with your goldfish like logic?
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