Re: Matty Smith : Fri Oct 14, 2016 11:32 am  

Grimmy wrote:

:lol: You're not seriously attributing George Williams' success to Matty Smith are you? Totally different players, Williams causes problems in attack, defends well and I can't remember him ever going missing in big games. Playing badly on the odd occasion, yes, but never going missing. Did you see the interview with Smith ahead of the Grand Final? He said words to the effect of never really getting involved in the last two Grand Finals and letting them pass him by. How can anyone accept that from a first choice scrum half at a top team?

With regards to medals, Ricky Bibey won two challenge cups, Richie Mathers won the same plus two World Club Challenges, it doesn't mean they were quality players.

Yes Mattys steadiness and leadership allowed George to thrive.

Mattys comments were humble. He doesn't do boasting.

I don't recall Bibey playing for England? Or Mathers? You're being a bit naughty there. We can all come up with players who have won something on the backs of others. They tend not to win Lance Todd trophies or caps for England though.

Re: Matty Smith : Sat Oct 15, 2016 8:00 am  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

No, it was as a reward for his service and the fact that he was being offered a four year (3 + 1) contract at Saints, so Wigan didn't stand in his way for a move that would be in the best interests of him and his family. They haven't been averse to letting players move on over the last few years have they?
Just have a listen to Lenagan at Tuesdays dinner on Wigan t.v.

What it shows is that Lenagan will put the financial well being of the club ahead of success or popularity. Or so the vast majority of your supporters have been bemoaning. He must be laughing all the way to the bank, & probably more success, by off-loading Smith.

Re: Matty Smith : Sat Oct 15, 2016 6:35 pm  

I've wanted shut of Smith for about 2 years now, he can have very good games but the truth of the matter is that he's limited in what he can do, and he isn't even consistent to back that up.

For every off the cuff 40/20 like last week he kicks, he'll go early on the 3rd tackle and find the opposition fullback with an astounding level of accuracy!

I'll say this for him though, if you're level with a team with 10 minutes to go, he'll win you the game with a drop goal. Never seen a player as good at them at Wigan.

Re: Matty Smith : Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:27 am  

Confirmed in todays League Express that Tommy Lee has signed for Saints.

Re: Matty Smith : Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:46 am  

As a HB or back-up hooker?

Re: Matty Smith : Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:15 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Confirmed in todays League Express that Tommy Lee has signed for Saints.

That's the big news I've been waiting for, I'm off to Renew my season ticket and pre order new saints top with Lee on the back

Re: Matty Smith : Tue Oct 18, 2016 9:34 am  

St pete wrote:

That's the big news I've been waiting for, I'm off to Renew my season ticket and pre order new saints top with Lee on the back

Re: Matty Smith : Thu Oct 20, 2016 7:49 am  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Confirmed in todays League Express that Tommy Lee has signed for Saints.

Now that is a truly awful signing, Smith is a first string SL halfback by any sensible measure, but Tommy Lee...well he certainly has a great future behind him!
Don't know what is going on at Saints, but it seems like for every sensible signing there has to be a Jack Owens type player signed, someone not good enough for a smaller club!

Re: Matty Smith : Thu Oct 20, 2016 10:44 am  

Kelvin's Ferret wrote:

Now that is a truly awful signing, Smith is a first string SL halfback by any sensible measure, but Tommy Lee...well he certainly has a great future behind him!
Don't know what is going on at Saints, but it seems like for every sensible signing there has to be a Jack Owens type player signed, someone not good enough for a smaller club!

If these were signings for the first team then I'd be worried, but they are simply cheap backup players for when we suffer the inevitable injuries. A full strength saints team doesn't have the likes of Owens and Lee near it.

Re: Matty Smith : Thu Oct 20, 2016 12:16 pm  

Twentyman wrote:

If these were signings for the first team then I'd be worried, but they are simply cheap backup players for when we suffer the inevitable injuries. A full strength saints team doesn't have the likes of Owens and Lee near it.

These useless players are blocking the advancement of the younger players coming through the system.