Re: Royce Gone !! : Mon Mar 19, 2012 6:21 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

It isn't. But Saints fans are always blathering on about wanting more silverware and judging coaches by the amount of silverware their team has won and yet Brown has managed zero number of pots with Hudds in four years. I'd really like to know by what logic, therefore, Brown is better than either Potter or Royce. Yet it would seem some people believe he is the messiah.

I've not seen or heard that. I've seen and heard people just asking for a coach that can coach unlike our previous coach.

Re: Royce Gone !! : Mon Mar 19, 2012 6:28 pm  

Did anyone have Royce as their dream team coach??????

Re: Royce Gone !! : Mon Mar 19, 2012 6:30 pm  

Very surprised about this. Bringing Cunningham & co in might give the players a lift for the next 3 games, but unfortunately the season is longer than the next 3 games. In Mid June the coaches won't be able to pull the us against the world speech everytime. You need coaching knowledge.

The players have to take responsibility. If the rest stood up like Wellens did you would have beaten us on Saturday. Was it Simmons fault Gaskell failed to find touch from the penalty. Was it SImmons fault Puletua knocked on with onlly the try line in front of him. He could so easily have won your last 3 games.

Catalans - if they hadn't have scored a wonder try
Huddersfield - If Lomax had have converted of the touch line
Bulls - If Gaskell found tuch from the penalty & Puletua didn't knock on.

Think Simmons has been very unlucky

Re: Royce Gone !! : Mon Mar 19, 2012 6:31 pm  

St pete wrote:

It's the three signings he's made this year that's going to be the long term problem. Im not saying lance, laffranchci and flanaghan ain't good players but they have been put in positions that they can't play.

It's obvious we are in dire need of a scrum half and prop but where they going to come from? He should have signed a scrum half instead of a fullback and a prop instead of a backrow.

For me I would keep Gaskell at scrum half and Wheeler at stand off for the rest of the season. Lance best position is hooker so I would use Roby at loose forward.
Biggest improvements need to come from LMS and Perry a couple of fireworks up their backsides might help. Lomax to be our utility back on the bench, TP an all out prop nothing else. Would drop Foster for the time and no place for Flannery.

Re: Royce Gone !! : Mon Mar 19, 2012 6:33 pm  

Bull Mania wrote:

Very surprised about this. Bringing Cunningham & co in might give the players a lift for the next 3 games, but unfortunately the season is longer than the next 3 games. In Mid June the coaches won't be able to pull the us against the world speech everytime. You need coaching knowledge.

The players have to take responsibility. If the rest stood up like Wellens did you would have beaten us on Saturday. Was it Simmons fault Gaskell failed to find touch from the penalty. Was it SImmons fault Puletua knocked on with onlly the try line in front of him. He could so easily have won your last 3 games.

Catalans - if they hadn't have scored a wonder try
Huddersfield - If Lomax had have converted of the touch line
Bulls - If Gaskell found tuch from the penalty & Puletua didn't knock on.

Think Simmons has been very unlucky

its not the defeats, its the manner of the defeats, we look clueless in attack. There's no form or inventiveness and the team look leaderless and running around like headless chickens. Things that should be sorted in training by the coach

Re: Royce Gone !! : Mon Mar 19, 2012 6:38 pm  

Bull Mania wrote:

Very surprised about this. Bringing Cunningham & co in might give the players a lift for the next 3 games, but unfortunately the season is longer than the next 3 games. In Mid June the coaches won't be able to pull the us against the world speech everytime. You need coaching knowledge.

The players have to take responsibility. If the rest stood up like Wellens did you would have beaten us on Saturday. Was it Simmons fault Gaskell failed to find touch from the penalty. Was it SImmons fault Puletua knocked on with onlly the try line in front of him. He could so easily have won your last 3 games.

Catalans - if they hadn't have scored a wonder try
Huddersfield - If Lomax had have converted of the touch line
Bulls - If Gaskell found tuch from the penalty & Puletua didn't knock on.

Think Simmons has been very unlucky

Unlucky?

We've been terrible! Utter shocking!

No game plan, no set plays, no organisation, no attack, letting far to many points in, not winning games and the worst kicking game I've ever seen by a pro team.

Re: Royce Gone !! : Mon Mar 19, 2012 6:38 pm  

St pete wrote:

It's the three signings he's made this year that's going to be the long term problem. Im not saying lance, laffranchci and flanaghan ain't good players but they have been put in positions that they can't play.

It's obvious we are in dire need of a scrum half and prop but where they going to come from? He should have signed a scrum half instead of a fullback and a prop instead of a backrow.

Just out of interest, go onto the superleague website and compare Laffranchi's stats againts Adrian Morely's this season (both have 7 games recorded), and against some of the Props you would have had us sign this year instead. I know statistics don't tell the whole story, and I'm not saying his stats will necessarily be better, or in some cases match, but I think you'll find they don't suggest he is struggling.

The fact is props in the current game simply aren't like they used to be, they aren't simple battering rams anymore and the rare exception that are generally useless after 10 minutes. There is very little if anything physically between the front and back rows these days with athleticism being preferable over sheer bulk, in fact there's little in terms of size and shape to differentiate between players of most positions anymore which the Aussies have exploited for years. I'd also argue that it's much easier for a 2nd Rower to adapt to playing prop that any other position having to adapt.

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Re: Royce Gone !! : Mon Mar 19, 2012 6:39 pm  

bewareshadows wrote:

Did anyone have Royce as their dream team coach??????

There where 9 people in the fantasy.rlfans.com system with him.

I guess they'll all change him now....

Re: Royce Gone !! : Mon Mar 19, 2012 6:44 pm  

Tony Stark wrote:

Just out of interest, go onto the superleague website and compare Laffranchi's stats againts Adrian Morely's this season (both have 7 games recorded), and against some of the Props you would have had us sign this year instead. I know statistics don't tell the whole story, and I'm not saying his stats will necessarily be better, or in some cases match, but I think you'll find they don't suggest he is struggling.

The fact is props in the current game simply aren't like they used to be, they aren't simple battering rams anymore and the rare exception that are generally useless after 10 minutes. There is very little if anything physically between the front and back rows these days with athleticism being preferable over sheer bulk, in fact there's little in terms of size and shape to differentiate between players of most positions anymore which the Aussies have exploited for years. I'd also argue that it's much easier for a 2nd Rower to adapt to playing prop that any other position having to adapt.

Your still missing my point. We lost possibly the best prop in the world and signed a decent backrow to replace him.

I'm not calling laffranchci and never have but we should have replaced jammer with the best prop available.

We've no aggression in the pack, it's to soft.

Re: Royce Gone !! : Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:03 pm  

Bull Mania wrote:

The players have to take responsibility. If the rest stood up like Wellens did you would have beaten us on Saturday. Was it Simmons fault Gaskell failed to find touch from the penalty. Was it SImmons fault Puletua knocked on with onlly the try line in front of him. He could so easily have won your last 3 games.

Catalans - if they hadn't have scored a wonder try
Huddersfield - If Lomax had have converted of the touch line
Bulls - If Gaskell found tuch from the penalty & Puletua didn't knock on.

Think Simmons has been very unlucky

I completely and totally agree with you.