: Wed Apr 01, 2009 7:09 pm  

~ No1 Saints Fan ~ wrote:

If that was your partner/you you'd want to be there to see your child born. If work held you back you wouldn't be best pleased.

Never wanted any man near me when giving birth - no thanks, I look a sight and feel like crap - and since nowhere I have ever worked would have let me go if I was a bloke, then I don't relate to what you've just said.

: Wed Apr 01, 2009 7:11 pm  

Sorry but Jen was spot on.

Everyone I know who has become a father has managed to get out of work to be there for the birth, its nothing new and I can't see it changing any time soon.

Infact when my Sister was pregnant she had a number of false alarms and her husband was allowed out of work to be with her for everyone without a problem.

: Wed Apr 01, 2009 7:16 pm  

Well then, you guys must have been working at very different places to where I have worked! Where I work at the moment, for example, they would simply say no. If the person decided then to, say, go off sick instead, they wouldn't be paid. (Don't get sick pay anyway)

Maybe you need to work for a firm of lawyers? That'll make you appreciate the tougher employment environments.

Incidentally, no employer is obliged in law to allow a man to bugga off halfway through a working day and be with his wife at the birth of their child. That's operated on a goodwill basis. Paternity leave kicks in once the child has been born (and some places, like mine, pay nothing)

: Wed Apr 01, 2009 7:22 pm  

But any employer who cared in the slightest about their workforce wouldn't consider trying to stop a father being at the birth of their child if that was what the parents wanted.

I think the club should be praised for allowing players to have family as their top priority and we certainly shouldn't question the dedication of the players for not wanting to miss the birth of their child.

: Wed Apr 01, 2009 7:32 pm  

Let Wello stay at home and play someone else. Too much of a risk if he has to leave at Half time for this one.

: Wed Apr 01, 2009 7:35 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

Never wanted any man near me when giving birth - no thanks, I look a sight and feel like crap - and since nowhere I have ever worked would have let me go if I was a bloke, then I don't relate to what you've just said.

Well maybe not everyone has your views.

: Wed Apr 01, 2009 8:05 pm  

Saint_Jen wrote:

Well maybe not everyone has your views.

Who would you have at the side for your April fools joke?

: Wed Apr 01, 2009 8:09 pm  

Damo-Leeds wrote:

Who would you have at the side for your April fools joke?

I have no idea what you're talking about Damo.

: Wed Apr 01, 2009 8:16 pm  

Saint_Jen wrote:

I have no idea what you're talking about Damo.

That should be the standard reply for any of Damo's posts.

: Wed Apr 01, 2009 8:21 pm  

Blobbynator wrote:

That should be the standard reply for any of Damo's posts.