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: Fri Apr 24, 2009 3:21 pm  
I am not sure which Bobbie Goulding some people were watching - but the one I saw was a much better scrum half than Sean Long.

Sean was a player who for years relied on his foot speed to make him look special (which it did) but only years later did he become an organising scrum half.
Bobbie Goulding was that organising scrum half right from the get go - his kicking game and vision was at times without peer in this country. Alright we all know he p1ssed it all away with poor attitude and bad judgement, but so did George Best and is still probably the most gifted Britsh Footballer.

I would not complain about either player being picked in a top Saints side, especially as there is no criteria for why a player is picked as we have here.
If it is just the most gifted scrum half I would go with Gouldding, if it the best scrum half to have played for St. Helens then I would go with Long for his consistancy and longevity (but dont let this cloud your memories people as there are plenty of people on here who have been screaming for Longs head for years)

As for the Wingers - if we have to go with 2 wingers for me Albert has to be a shoe in, but I think many posters on here have been remembering Sullivan with rose covered keyboards, the guy was a liability under high balls, luckily it was Goulding that introduced this tactic to the British game and it wasnt as wide spread as it is now - or else I am afraid that he would be the Gardner/Meli/latest scapegoat of his time. He played on confidence more than almost any player I have ever seen and when his confidence was low you may have well played Stuart Evans on the wing.

Alan Hunte is a very good call for the other wing spot, when the 2 played together he was always - to my eyes - the better player.

But I would be tempted to take a leaf out of the Australian selectors handbook and pick a 3rd Centre on the wing, maybe Iro or Lyon or Gidley - how lucky have we been with centres over the years
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: Fri Apr 24, 2009 3:56 pm  
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Whaaaat?

Martyn's handling was far better than Pryce's. And he could kick a 60-yard touch finder - which is what Saints have lacked since he left.


Read the team above that statement, Martyn is in it!

I was stating that Martyn would be in that team ahead of Pryce because of his passing ability.
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: Fri Apr 24, 2009 4:31 pm  
I used to hate it when Sully ran from the dummy half. He was the most hopeless dummy half runner I've seen. Always got hit for zero or less yards.

He WAS good at ghosting into midfield and coming onto a short ball. Couldn't understand why he didn't do it more often.
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: Mon May 11, 2009 3:36 pm  
alot of aussies picked :wink:
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: Mon May 11, 2009 3:39 pm  
1. Paul Wellens
2. Allan Hunte
3. Jamie Lyon
4. Paul Newlove
5. Anthony Sullivan
20. Tommy Martyn
7. Sean Long
8. James Graham
9. Keiron Cunningham
10. David Fairleigh
11. Chris Joynt
12. Lee Gilmour
13. Paul Sculthorpe

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14. James Roby
15. Sonny Nickle
16. Fereti Tuilagi
17. Paul Anderson
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: Mon May 18, 2009 9:17 am  
1. Wellens

2. Albert
3. Lyon
4. Newlove
5. Sullivan

20. Martyn
7. Long

8. Fairleigh
9. Cunningham
10. Graham
11. Joynt
12. Gilmour
13. Sculthorpe

14. Roby
15. Perelini
16. Britt
17. Pryce

Apologies to Iro ; Gidley; Goulding; Tuilagi ; Wilkin ; and so many more .
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: Mon May 18, 2009 6:35 pm  
1. Paul Wellens
2. Fereti Tuilagi
3. Jamie Lyon
4. Paul Newlove
5. Darren Albert
20. Tommy Martyn
7. Sean Long
8. Apollo Perelini
9. Keiron Cunningham
10. David Fairleigh
11. Chris Joynt
12. Jon Wilkin
13. Paul Sculthorpe

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14. James Graham
15. Darren Britt
16. Derek McVey
17. Matt Gidley
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: Mon May 18, 2009 8:42 pm  
cumbriansaint wrote:
1. Paul Wellens
2. Fereti Tuilagi
3. Jamie Lyon
4. Paul Newlove
5. Darren Albert
20. Tommy Martyn
7. Sean Long
8. Apollo Perelini
9. Keiron Cunningham
10. David Fairleigh
11. Chris Joynt
12. Jon Wilkin
13. Paul Sculthorpe

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14. James Graham
15. Darren Britt
16. Derek McVey
17. Matt Gidley

Second Row ?
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: Tue May 19, 2009 12:03 pm  
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Second Row ?


Signed as a winger, moved to second row by Hanley, I believe.
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: Tue May 19, 2009 12:14 pm  
I always hate it when people mention Derek McVey in such threads:

One, because it instantly gives ammunition to those who have slated the standards of superleague

Two, because the guy had about 10 good games and lives off a particularly good performance against Wigan

Three, because he was guilty of some of the most appalling errors that madfe Roy haggerty's performance against Wigan in 1989 Challenge Cup Final look good. Off load from 5 yards from your own line against Brisbane ring any bells. the Aussies practically fell over laughing at that blooper.

And finally because the guy was so good that he was signed by Brisbane, I mean St. George, I mean Parramatta... oh sorry, some team in the sticks.

Derek McVey - the Tony Yeboah of SuperLeague.
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