: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:24 pm  

sgtwilko wrote:

to all saints fans that have kids or are kids pryce is a role modle, probably one of the worst you could get in rugby league but is a role modle non the less. as a leeds fan i think it was a good thing bailey and chev did the time for the crime, debt paid! sends a great message to kids in what can only be described as f*cked up times. the message the judges in said cases of cockay n pryce and hull kr as a club have put out is frankly disturbing in what is a family game.

i recon saints will do nothing to pryce which is a real indicator of the moral line. pryce is too important to saints for them to punish by example.

i dont think all clubs would do the same as saints, some would defo get rid. but i do think the more successful ones would keep key players! which again speaks volumes about how messed up our society really is!!

Errm, slightly confused about all this. Let me see if I have got it right
1. Pryce has pleaded guilty to an offence of assault as a result, if the press are to be believed, of another party breaking into a premise and another person attacking, albeit in rightful defence Pryce who then unlawfully defended himself.
2. He pleaded gulity and accepted that what he did was wrong.
3. The judiciary have accepted that he knows he was wrong and have taken into consideration when sentencing his guilty plea.
4. The have given him a sentence that gives him maximum opportunity to repay the community for his deeds, hopefully in a positive way utilising the skills that he has.
5. The club has said that they will review what has happened and make a statement at a later date.

I am confused at why people are making a fuss about all this. Yes he is a role model, but I have not heard him sayng hat what he did was right or young rugby players should go out and get drunk before bursting into a house and pushing somebody over. He has apologised for what was a relatively minor offence.

Any possibility we can all do what Leon is doing now and get on with our lives?

: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:28 pm  

willowred wrote:

Are the club going to take action against him

they are going to chain him up in a chair and make him watch a few wigan matches.

: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:30 pm  

What i dont get is people saying Pryce should be banned/suspended by Saints. Why?

He has been tried in a court of law for being a naughty boy, he has been found guilty and will ultimately pay the price (excuse the pun) for his actions.

On the field Pryce has been a model professional,played very well and kept his mouth shut about the incident.

IMO he shouldn't be punished twice.

Let the lad get on with his life, he's fecked up off the field,if he does it again then the consequences will be more severe. Turn the negative into a positive with the community work, ie getting him coaching at amateur clubs etc

: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:36 pm  

tm - tl wrote:

What i dont get is people saying Pryce should be banned/suspended by Saints. Why?

Because we're the kings of rugby league.

: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:31 pm  

tm-tl wrote:

What i dont get is people saying Pryce should be banned/suspended by Saints. Why?

He has been tried in a court of law for being a naughty boy, he has been found guilty and will ultimately pay the price (excuse the pun) for his actions.

On the field Pryce has been a model professional,played very well and kept his mouth shut about the incident.

IMO he shouldn't be punished twice.

Let the lad get on with his life, he's fecked up off the field,if he does it again then the consequences will be more severe. Turn the negative into a positive with the community work, ie getting him coaching at amateur clubs etc

Because there are internal club issues here as well,as posted below.

saints35 bulls0 wrote:

wait to see what happens, but according to statements made by the club in the past:

"We make continued and vigorous attempts to positively differentiate our Club and our sport as a family sport. We expect this image to be portrayed by our players, all staff and our supporters."

"No one person is bigger than St Helens Rugby Football Club."

"The long-term name and reputation of the club is paramount and cannot be sacrificed to accommodate the kind of unacceptable behaviour displayed."

"The club, along with all other Super League clubs, has for some time been working extremely hard to promote St Helens as a family club with family values."

"The club is simply not prepared to tolerate this kind of behaviour from any employee. To do so sends the wrong message to staff, players, fans and in particular young fans."

Since Eamonn took charge the club have worked very hard to sell Saints as a family and community club,part of which,I would think,is to operate under quite high moral and ethical guidelines as to what is and isn't acceptable behaviour by an employee of the club.

: Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:02 pm  

Supreme Sydney2002 wrote:

He could murder Big Mac, shove his arm up st bernard and turn up for training in a wigoon shirt each day, he will still get a gig in the first team each week though.

Maybe the club shuld make him "get out" more, around the town I mean, get into the schools, go spread tha tbig smile of his around the town and show what a nice lad he is...of course he can take the CC with him, or the hubcap.

As a school governor he wouldn`t be allowed to be within 10 miles of my school how would he pass his CRB check for one thing.

: Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:03 pm  

tm - tl wrote:

What i dont get is people saying Pryce should be banned/suspended by Saints. Why?

Very good question and one which I can't answer myself. I sincerely hope Saints don't go the self-righteous, holier-than-thou route but instead take a measured response, given that Leon's real crime was actually one of being a stoopid a$$ in getting himself involved in Reardon's divorce. One hundred hours plus all the negative publicity (not to mention the jeering at every match since he pled guilty) has been perfectly adequate punishment for pushing a bloke.

I won't like Saints quite so much if they take the holier than thou route because God knows what crimes a person will have to commit in the future if pushing a bloke is considered worthy of a second round of punishment. Dropping litter?

: Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:19 pm  

Drop him for Murrayfield Magic.

It's not like we'll need him...

: Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:27 pm  

It's been touched on by other posters, but the ONLY reason opposition fans are discussing this and getting on their high horse with their 'morals' and suggesting that we should sack him, is that it would damage our team.

There were people on here who did the same thing when Feka went through his little affair last year. Same reason, they wanted Wigan to lose an important player. Bothered about the victims? I think not.

People need to knock off the concerned, moral crusader act. I find it pathetic given that they wouldn't even be discussing this matter if it wasn't a high-profile rugby league player involved. And would cream themselves if Pryce was sacked, and their team subsequently signed him.

: Thu Apr 23, 2009 11:14 pm  

(Saint) wrote:

It's been touched on by other posters, but the ONLY reason opposition fans are discussing this and getting on their high horse with their 'morals' and suggesting that we should sack him, is that it would damage our team.

There were people on here who did the same thing when Feka went through his little affair last year. Same reason, they wanted Wigan to lose an important player. Bothered about the victims? I think not.

People need to knock off the concerned, moral crusader act. I find it pathetic given that they wouldn't even be discussing this matter if it wasn't a high-profile rugby league player involved. And would cream themselves if Pryce was sacked, and their team subsequently signed him.

You can believe that all you want, and play the victim card, however Hull KR were under pressure from fans to punish Cockayne, which they did. Wire were under pressure to punish Reardon, which they did. Hull got terrible stick for signing Reardon, even from their own fans, they have now released him.
You are getting the same stick that other clubs who's players have recently been involved in incidents.

Sure, some fans go over the top, however we have seen action taken by the other clubs (Wire and Cas sacked players, Hull KR suspended one while he does his community service), let's see what Saints' response is.