Judder Man wrote:
That's a bit rich TLQ, from a club that blood sucks the Rl in providing no financial contribution to super league clubs and relies on away fans to supplement there existence.
Show me a club that doesn't factor in certain "away" attendances in their financial planning? And why should any away sides support make a "financial contribution" to any SL club. It's for the home side to get the crowds through the gate not for the away side to provide a "financial contribution.
And poor home attendances is an issue that many Quins RL fans have been vocal about for sometime. RL has an "image" problem. When the football season ends and I try to encourage some of my football loving mates to the Stoop to watch RL the response more than often is the
"No thanks, RL is for northerners". They are of course incorrect but that's the reality Quins RL face, a sceptic public both north and south.
Judder Man wrote:
The club then has the audacity to come up with double headers to massage the attendances back to Rl.
I stopped going to your club last year when the union management ambushed the super league fixture and forced us to pay union gate prices.
I and most Quins RL fans wouldn't disagree with you on that one. Perhaps you didn't read Simon Fitzjohn & Jo Rooney's
excellent crtique of the double header fiasco of last season. I hope the only double headers we get at The Stoop this season include 2 RL matches on a match day..
Judder Man wrote:
It would be great if the club reach the grand final this year, would we see the justification in the clubs existence with around 1200 Quinn fans in a 72000 stadium at such a prime event.
Yes it would be good for Quins RL in particular and RL in general if an "unfancied" side got to the grand final but I doubt it would happen and no doubt in the unlikely scenario it did happen that a few saints shirts will be seen whether Saints make the grand final or not.
martinbuckley wrote:
To me, it seems the St helens board are being greedy in asking their fans to travel every week and then charge them more for the priviledge. They have no ground maintenance costs this year (only rent), so every penny above the rent can either go in salary or in the coffers for next year
And there in lies the rub. Saints have a wage bill to pay. That makes them no different than any other SL club. I suspect admission prices have also factored in what would be lost in a) reduced numbers of fans through the gate because of the year's squat in Widnes b) lose of other match day revenue streams (eg matchday refreshments).
martinbuckley wrote:
Indeed. That's because you've only been in existence five minutes compared to Saints, who were one of the founding members of the rugby league. In fact, without the likes of Saints, Quins RL wouldn't exist at all because there would be no RL. So actually you should be thanking us profusely for your current success instead of making childish comments about something out of our control: namely, a stadium that at the outset of Superleague was considered one of the best in the league but due to changing expectations fast became one of the worst. However, it was also the stage for a quality of rugby league you may never see at any home ground of Quins RL.
Ah yes they "historic club" defence.
Yes the game was born in a northern hotel 115 years ago. So what? Ah yes, us "southern shandy drinking poofs" and the current RFL bosses don't understand/appreciate the games heritage and treat it with disrespect.
We are, well some of us at least, are living in the 21st century. That means facilities that meet the aspiration of the 21st century. As I said before your squatters because your club focused on the holy grail of superleague success, without to much success it must be said, whilst ignoring the need for modern stadia because "We're Saint Helens, don't you know".
As for thanking you (Saints) for our current "success" thats far more to do with the current coach and his players. But as our coach continues to state we ain't the finished article and there is a long way to go this season yet.
mistermoo wrote:
Is there any chance you could make a post without swearing or is that beyond you?
I'm sure you heard far worse than my little slip of the keyborad at Widnes on Friday. Always assuming your not one of the "stayaways".
Soooooooooooooo predictable.
