: Sat Feb 14, 2009 10:34 am  

mystic eddie wrote:

Whether we spend it or wait until Bird clears his name (IF he indeed does so) is a decision for the powers that be at the club.

There isn't currently any players of the right quality available so I expect the club will keep the space on the cap. If the trial goes ahead in April then it will still leaves plenty of time for Bird to join up if the result goes the way he is expecting.

But for now we should forget about Bird. I know I cannot wait to see Menzies at Odsal tomorrow, even if it is likely to be another mud bath!

: Sat Feb 14, 2009 12:42 pm  

Im not Ray Cyst but... wrote:

Our legal system, moral code, broad economic policy, approach to land ownership and human rights are definitely not common to other European countries.

No? I thought we had a whole history of empire building and colonial oppression in common with them? Still at least we've learning something about economic policy - neoliberal deregulation and privatisation is a disaster, land ownership - agri-business and the wealthy would keep us off the land and poison us if we allowed them, and human rights - torture is instrumentally ineffective, barbaric and contrary to any 'moral code', perhaps even yours? Although as you're a crude reactionary wind-up merchant perhaps moral dubiousness is the ground you're most at home on?

: Sat Feb 14, 2009 12:57 pm  

mystic eddie wrote:

I do remember some time ago when his name was first linked with ourselves that a number of posters were less than happy to be linked with him as they did not want "people like him" at our club. One assumes that they will be happy now?

Not really i think we made ourselves look bad pursuing someone who was very unlikely to be available. I don't think he is as good as some people have made out and as far as I can see neither he or his partner have denied he attacked her. Rather, in hindsight they would have preferred to have dealt with it themselves, but having got the police involved it's out of their hands and the police think it sufficiently serious to go to court.

Interestingly some people seem to think guilt or innocence is only determined in courts, plenty of people are technically not guilty of a crime, but have done something others would find reprehensible, whilst others are technically guilty of a crime, but might be acting in an entirely moral way (historical examples being Suffragettes, MLK, Mandela etc).

So am I happy, no, being happy about the club acting in a way which tarnishes its reputation for nothing makes me quite sad. Am i pleased he's not coming, yes, do i want him here in the future - no. Hope that's consistent enough for you.

: Sat Feb 14, 2009 5:48 pm  

anarkik wrote:

Genius at work, pure revelation....

So basically you don't understand the law as it is practiced, concepts of justice, the benefits system or politics, nor have you bothered to read the thread. Not to worry eh?

Er and you do?


It seems to me that the law that is practiced is determined at the whim of public servants and it would be interesting to see what would happen if Bird challenged that ruling in a court of law.

: Sat Feb 14, 2009 6:48 pm  

anarkik wrote:

So am I happy, no, being happy about the club acting in a way which tarnishes its reputation for nothing makes me quite sad. Am i pleased he's not coming, yes, do i want him here in the future - no. Hope that's consistent enough for you.

Fair point, well made.

Shame there are not too many more like you though.

: Sun Feb 15, 2009 2:13 am  

"Despite yesterday's thwarted attempt, Bird is expected to lodge a formal application to play with Newtown in the NSWRL competition."

"Despite yesterday's thwarted attempt, Bird is expected to lodge a formal application to play with Newtown in the NSWRL competition."