: Tue Mar 17, 2009 2:47 pm  

Shaggoth wrote:

I suppose this is a testament to how fantastically well we've done in the past without a sugar-daddy and with a millstone of a ground. I can't feel suicidal about NOW because at the back of my mind is always the fact that we've probably been punching above our weight in the past.

That, I believe, is at the heart of so much of whats currently going on in and around the club (its what I always think about when people compare our declining crowds to the likes of Leeds and Wigan). I made the point back in 2006 and some people took the p!ss, but I stand by it and its good to see others might have the same thought. Its also why I refuse to be too depressed about the current situation.

The club has made great strides since the early/mid 90's and can kick on again I'm sure. But nothing is guarenteed, every team has a down period and they can be harder to get out of without financial clout and a bigger/historically more established fan base.

: Tue Mar 17, 2009 3:06 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

It would be more accurate to say that many of the the boo boys are a totally unreasonable idiots, who won't take anything less than a win, and who failed to see, or didn't want to see, what a vastly improved performance the team put up.

They seem to ignore all the good play and good tries. They seem to ignore all the hard tackles, and big hit ups. Yet they seem to suddenly find their voice when mistakes occur. They seem to find their "boo" whenever an Unfavoured One such as Platt or McNamara is in sight. My conclusion is that they are waiting, hoping and praying for bad play, errors and mistakes and deliberately shut out all the decent rugby from their brains. It never happened.

Personally I find it embarrassing that a grown man would seriously claim a "right to boo". I find the sight of an adult baying like a wildebeest very unedifying. In fact, I find it pathetic.

To insinuate you find people who Boo pathetic isn't the way forward and neither is it to call them idiots.

Nobody wants to see the team play bad or lose but when it's consistently happening what else can they do? There comes a point despite the clapping and the cheering nothing changes, at what point do we say enough is enough or do people blindly continue to accept what's happening.

There's been a lot of talk on these boards about the negativity of some poster's and how it's not helping the team, and to some degree i accept there can be a tendency to go overboard, but as passionate supporters they have every right to express there opinion, perhaps a counter argument rather than name calling is the best way forward?

[Pumpetypump]

: Tue Mar 17, 2009 3:20 pm  

Northern Lad wrote:

There's been a lot of talk on these boards about the negativity of some poster's and how it's not helping the team, and to some degree i accept there can be a tendency to go overboard, but as passionate supporters they have every right to express there opinion, perhaps a counter argument rather than name calling is the best way forward?

No, no, no. What you do is this. You watch us knock on, pass to touch, go round in circles and you say in a quiet voice " I must say, this irks me somewhat".

[Bullseye]

: Tue Mar 17, 2009 3:21 pm  

Shaggoth wrote:

No, no, no. What you do is this. You watch us knock on, pass to touch, go round in circles and you say in a quiet voice " I must say, this irks me somewhat".

You are Bertie Wooster and I claim my £5.

: Tue Mar 17, 2009 3:24 pm  

We can have all the good play and good tries

We can have all the hard tackles, and big hits


But until we look like we're in control of a game & start getting points on the table, you will always have those supporters, feeling let down. It's when they start talking with their feet and stop coming altogether, that I feel disappointed

I've never booed a team, no matter how they've performed, even when a player from the opposition puts in a bad tackle against one of our boys or we're up against another team where one of our players is now playing for them.

I cringe when I hear adults doing this, as I've always thought boos are made for the kids when they go see a panto.

All that said though, if I had a choice of hear boos or supporters hurling personal insults at the players/coach, I'd opt for maybe a boo instead

[Pumpetypump]

: Tue Mar 17, 2009 3:24 pm  

Bullseye wrote:

You are Bertie Wooster and I claim my £5.

Don't be such a bounder.

: Tue Mar 17, 2009 3:25 pm  

We can have all the good play and good tries

We can have all the hard tackles, and big hits


But until we look like we're in control of a game & start getting points on the table, you will always have those supporters, feeling let down. It's when they start talking with their feet and stop coming altogether, that I feel disappointed

I've never booed a team, no matter how they've performed, even when a player from the opposition puts in a bad tackle against one of our boys or we're up against another team where one of our players is now playing for them.

I cringe when I hear adults doing this, as I've always thought boos are made for the kids when they go see a panto.

All that said though, if I had a choice of hear boos or supporters hurling personal insults at the players/coach, I'd opt for maybe a boo instead

[Pumpetypump]

: Tue Mar 17, 2009 3:28 pm  

If everyone with unwavering support were to shout oob, would it cancel it out?

[Bullseye]

: Tue Mar 17, 2009 3:30 pm  

I say Bertie my chum Gussy Finknottle is a whiz of a rugger player and wildly infatuated with Amelia who my Aunt Agatha wishes to see married to yours truly! This would be a turn of events that wouldn't sit favourably with yours truly, perhaps your butler Jeeves could suggest a way out off this sticky wicket?

Ocelot Ponsonby-Smythe

: Tue Mar 17, 2009 3:31 pm  

The paying fan has to the right to express their views in any way they desire (within limits of course).

After weeks and of poor performances and very little signs of improvements maybe some of the fans feel that enough is enough.

I am a true Bradford and will go to the games no matter how bad it gets because red, amber and black runs through my veins.

However the players have to take some of criticism and for me the Hull match was just enough. They play with no passion, no pride and no fight.

They need to take a long hard look at themselves and get something sorted.