: Wed May 06, 2009 12:52 pm  

Mystic Leper wrote:

Halley has beenfar more reliable IMO than Platt was yes he has made mistakes but i feel a lot mopre secure with him at fullback, as for him getting trampled did you not see the tackle at MM where he held the guy up?? or the tackle on mozza at the game we would all like to forget?

Not much between them for me although in a way I feel more secure with Halley but only because I felt nervous everytime Platt did anything because of the noises our fans made!

The tackle at MM, I presume you mean the one where Halley and Scruton held the guy up over the line? and yes I saw the other tackle, both good tackles but he needs to be more consistent. If Halley works on his tackling, (hitting low rather than grabbing men 5 stone heavier than him round the shoulders!) he will be a great fullback and I certainly hope he does as he seems a great lad.

: Wed May 06, 2009 12:54 pm  

bigchris wrote:

Fair comment, I gave the highlights and you gave the full match commentry

Or, you were to the point, I like to waffle?!

bigchris wrote:

You don't see his inability to tackle when it matters as a problem? He's only a small lad so I'm not expecting him to make crunching tackles on a player weighing several stone more than him but he needs to do something about his tackling if he ever wants to be a great fullback

Halley is far from the perfect FB I'll agree, but then we have been spoilt over the recent past with our FB's. He has problems but none that I would say need him dropping for as overall he has had a positive impact on the team IMO, but then I wouldn't have dropped Platt either as I thought others were playing worse than Platt, he did excellent at Cas for example the week before the cup car crash, so what do I know?? (answers on the back of a postage stamp please )

: Wed May 06, 2009 1:54 pm  

Halley will never be a great FB, he is simply not big enough. Platt has all the necessary physical attributes, it's the mental side he needs to sort.

: Wed May 06, 2009 2:23 pm  

tigertot wrote:

Halley will never be a great FB, he is simply not big enough. Platt has all the necessary physical attributes, it's the mental side he needs to sort.

Halley is about the same size as Brent Webb and Halley's pace means that he consistently finds gaps on kick returns and marks more ground before the defensive gets up to him.

Platt isn't as bad as people make out and one day once he gets his head straight might be a decent player but at the moment he is behind Halley and I can't see that changing.

: Wed May 06, 2009 3:03 pm  

Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza wrote:

Halley is about the same size as Brent Webb and Halley's pace means that he consistently finds gaps on kick returns and marks more ground before the defensive gets up to him.

Webb has much more in attack, not necessarily direct pace. He does tend to have a better defence in front of him than Halley which disguises his own vulnerability in defence.

: Wed May 06, 2009 3:23 pm  

Halley originally got put there because Platt had an absolute shocker, he played a brilliant game against Leeds and hasn't had too many errors since. Platt played well in centre, but I can't see him getting in again unless Halley gets really off form or if somebody is injured.

: Wed May 06, 2009 3:30 pm  

Consensus of opinion seems to be to have Halley at FB (with which I agree at the moment).
However, where does this leave Platt?

Centre? Certainly at the moment PS & CN would be my first choice.

Wing? He certainly wouldn't get in ahead of Semi, maybe ahead of Rikki?

After signing him for three years, there must be some confidence in his ability to play somewhere.

: Wed May 06, 2009 3:31 pm  

I hope somebody wants him in this off season and agrees to be released. Once Sheriffe's ball handling gets better he'll be good there, apart from that he's been doing ok.

: Wed May 06, 2009 3:38 pm  

tigertot wrote:

Webb has much more in attack, not necessarily direct pace. He does tend to have a better defence in front of him than Halley which disguises his own vulnerability in defence.

Comes with experience of playing in that position. Knowing where to position yourself, running good lines and popping up at the right time in support. Halley will learn all this over time.

: Wed May 06, 2009 5:57 pm  

Wigan Bull wrote:

Consensus of opinion seems to be to have Halley at FB (with which I agree at the moment).
However, where does this leave Platt?

Centre? Certainly at the moment PS & CN would be my first choice.

Wing? He certainly wouldn't get in ahead of Semi, maybe ahead of Rikki?

After signing him for three years, there must be some confidence in his ability to play somewhere.

utility back? can play to a reasonalble standard at fullback and Centre so a handy player to have in squad to cover injuries if not necessarily a first choice starter. gives us competition for places if nothing else.