: Tue Jul 07, 2009 5:55 pm  

Stul wrote:

No he doesn't. He's EU born, so to subject him to quotas would be illegal. Harlequins failure to recognise in time is why he is not still there.

as I understand it because he wasnt playing in superleague at time new rules came in ( feb 2008) he cant apply for federation trained, which is what all kolpak players playing in superleague, like semi, can do. As such whilst he isnt full quota he does count as overseas trained. we are allowed 6 overseas next year of which upto 5 can be full quota. at them moment we have signed for next year nero and hall, as full quota players. assuming menzies and BJ stay as well that only leaves us 1 full quota spot and 1 overseas trained spot.

: Tue Jul 07, 2009 7:08 pm  

Stul wrote:

No he doesn't. He's EU born, so to subject him to quotas would be illegal. Harlequins failure to recognise in time is why he is not still there.

He would be classed as non-federation trained.

: Tue Jul 07, 2009 7:24 pm  

So have we signed him til the end of July then or not?
I hope so.

: Tue Jul 07, 2009 7:29 pm  

debaser wrote:

So have we signed him til the end of July then or not?
I hope so.

Yes. His agent is quoted in LE saying so.

: Tue Jul 07, 2009 7:31 pm  

I just can't see the point in it unless we are going to drop one of Deacon or Newton or Godwin because we certainly don't need all as well as Jefferies in the 17.

: Tue Jul 07, 2009 7:36 pm  

redeverready wrote:

I just can't see the point in it unless we are going to drop one of Deacon or Newton or Godwin because we certainly don't need all as well as Jefferies in the 17.

We can have a bench of hookers, instead of 2nd rowers. It's Macca's new masterplan.
Have faith.

: Tue Jul 07, 2009 7:50 pm  

redeverready wrote:

I just can't see the point in it unless we are going to drop one of Deacon or Newton or Godwin because we certainly don't need all as well as Jefferies in the 17.

For the good of the team it surely has to happen soon? How long do you give a player to find his form? He may be our captain but he doesn't deserve his place right now and should be dropped. I dunno whether Rinaldi is our answer at 7 but it has to be worth a try.

I agree with others on here though who have called for Sykes at 6 and BJ at 7 for Hull KR. Sykes has done fairly well at stand off and with Menzies on the right we look stronger defensively.

: Tue Jul 07, 2009 8:31 pm  

redeverready wrote:

He would be classed as non-federation trained.

In which case he would take the RFL to court and win.

: Tue Jul 07, 2009 8:32 pm  

Stul wrote:

In which case he would take the RFL to court and win.

Why would he.

: Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:18 pm  

redeverready wrote:

Why would he.

He is an EU national. He is not allowed to be subject to restrictive employment practices such as nationality based quotas.

We can do what we like to non-EU nationals.