: Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:58 pm  

What is it with Bulls fans wanting to sign veterans well past their best all of a sudden. We've got to get away from this rubbish, it's young mans sport and we've got to be looking to the future. Keep away from Drew for pete sake.

: Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:01 pm  

DILLIGAF wrote:

If he's after silly money, then obviously not. From a pure rugby point of view though, he is still an awesome player and I'd love him in our team.

As far as Brough goes, I don't find him the player that a lot of people make out and would not want to sign him. He would be an improvement on Deacon with the way Deacs has been playing this year, but I would much rather have someone else. There seems to be one very very easy way to stop Brough playing well, and that's to wind him up. Every single game I've seen him get wound up, he then starts kicking out on the full and generally playing crap. Other teams don't seem to capitalise on that nearly enough.

If that was really the case and really that simple, why don’t our opposition do it to him week in week out??? The answer is that it is just a myth!!! Granted he has bad games.......last week he was awful, but still 'won' the game for us with his kick.

: Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:17 pm  

SimonBarrett wrote:

If that was really the case and really that simple, why don’t our opposition do it to him week in week out??? The answer is that it is just a myth!!! Granted he has bad games.......last week he was awful, but still 'won' the game for us with his kick.

When I see a game that he gets wound up in and doesn't end up doing stupid and awful things, I'll think otherwise.

As it happens, every single time I've seen him get miffed (I can remember three incidents just this season, including a game against us), he ends up playing shockingly.

It would also be nice if his mouthing off to the referee got him a card occasionally. He gets away with that far too much ever since he got sent off for it at Huddersfield.

: Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:18 pm  

cieranblonde wrote:

I'd rather have Danny Brough

I agree Danny Brough and/or Ryan Atkins are the only Wakey players we should be considering IMO

: Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:29 pm  

And a quick additional on Brough. He's a gobsh*te. And I really don't like having to cheer those on if I can help it.

: Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:31 pm  

DILLIGAF wrote:

When I see a game that he gets wound up in and doesn't end up doing stupid and awful things, I'll think otherwise.

As it happens, every single time I've seen him get miffed (I can remember three incidents just this season, including a game against us), he ends up playing shockingly.

It would also be nice if his mouthing off to the referee got him a card occasionally. He gets away with that far too much ever since he got sent off for it at Huddersfield.

You haven't really answered my question though......why dont opposition players target him every week then if its that simple????

: Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:37 pm  

SimonBarrett wrote:

You haven't really answered my question though......why dont opposition players target him every week then if its that simple????

Something I have often wondered myself to be honest. I'm sure it's not really that simple. However the evidence I've seen, especially this year, seems to suggest otherwise. It seems glaringly obvious, so I can't get why other coaches don't at the very least try it.

: Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:41 pm  

DILLIGAF wrote:

And a quick additional on Brough. He's a gobsh*te. And I really don't like having to cheer those on if I can help it.

Whether he's a gobsh*te or not, I couldn't comment, but he's an improvement on either of our current incumbents

: Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:43 pm  

Steam Pig wrote:

Whether he's a gobsh*te or not, I couldn't comment

Have you never watched him play? He's another out of the mould of Briers. Never stops mouthing off and moaning to the referee. Toys come out of the pram on a regular occasion.

[Bullseye]

: Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:47 pm  

Many the best scrum halves have had some sort of personality disorder whether that is a just being a nasty piece of work or having some other problem. There's something about the position that lends itself to those who have something wrong in the head.

For example, off the top of my head the following were all either trouble on the field or off it or both:

Alex Murphy
Andy Gregory
Bobby Goulding
Gary Freeman
Andrew Johns
Allan Langer

Now I wouldn't put Brough in the company above but he shares the same "small man syndrome".