: Wed Jul 08, 2009 7:24 pm  

Adeybull wrote:

"Selling Club"?

Did we actually receive any transfer fees for Les or Shonny, though?
We were told that Fielden, Les and Shonny wanted to leave - for better rewards elsewhere. If that is the case, and given that trying to force a contracted player to see out his contract is rarely likely to be a success, then how does that make us a "selling club"?

When the history books come to be written, I have a feeling we may see that there was rather more to the Fielden transfer (at least) than may have seemed, mind.

Regarding Sam: I always assumed he would seek to go to the NRL if or (most likely) when the opportunity presented itself. tbh, he'd be a fool not to if given the chance IMO.

Yes.

: Wed Jul 08, 2009 7:31 pm  

redeverready wrote:

Yes.

Public domain? I don't recall seeing anything much reported (unless I was having some senior moments at the time...not impossible) but I would have been pretty disappointed had we not.

: Wed Jul 08, 2009 7:35 pm  

Adeybull wrote:

Public domain? I don't recall seeing anything much reported (unless I was having some senior moments at the time...not impossible) but I would have been pretty disappointed had we not.

It was never mentioned exact figures but from what I've been told it was 50k for Les and around 20k for Shonny.

: Wed Jul 08, 2009 7:35 pm  

Adeybull wrote: Public domain? I don't recall seeing anything much reported (unless I was having some senior moments at the time...not impossible) but I would have been pretty disappointed had we not. Here Adey Hape. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_u ... 419627.stm

Adeybull wrote: Public domain? I don't recall seeing anything much reported (unless I was having some senior moments at the time...not impossible) but I would have been pretty disappointed had we not. Here Adey Hape. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_u ... 419627.stm

: Wed Jul 08, 2009 7:41 pm  

Ah. Senior moment for sure, then... Thanks guys.

From Red's figures, both quite modest, it would rather suggest that far from being a "selling club" with those two - i.e. selling your best players for megabucks to bale it out financially - we instead sought some recompense for losing players who were going to/looking to leave anyway?

: Wed Jul 08, 2009 7:43 pm  

Adeybull wrote:

Ah. Senior moment for sure, then... Thanks guys.

From Red's figures, both quite modest, it would rather suggest that far from being a "selling club" with those two - i.e. selling your best players for megabucks to bale it out financially - we instead sought some recompense for losing players who were going to/looking to leave anyway?

But we didn't have to sell them though, but we did for financial gain.
We sold our players for money, making us a selling club in my eyes, hopefully we wont be selling Burgess though.

: Wed Jul 08, 2009 7:44 pm  

Does anyone know the last time we transfer listed a player?

: Wed Jul 08, 2009 7:45 pm  

Bully_Boxer wrote:

Does anyone know the last time we transfer listed a player?

God knows, the last person I can remember being transfer listed was Iestyn Harris at Warrington, for 1 Million. Think Murphy was something to do with them at that time.

: Wed Jul 08, 2009 7:47 pm  

Terry Monster wrote:

But we didn't have to sell them though, but we did for financial gain.
We sold our players for money, making us a selling club in my eyes, hopefully we wont be selling Burgess though.

No we didn't have to sell, but if a player wants to earn more money elsewhere and asks to leave then the club have little choice really. I think releasing Lesley and Hape was probably the right time in both cases but unfortunately we haven't properly replaced them.

: Wed Jul 08, 2009 7:54 pm  

Terry Monster wrote:

But we didn't have to sell them though, but we did for financial gain.
We sold our players for money, making us a selling club in my eyes, hopefully we wont be selling Burgess though.

Understand what you are saying. But surely, if these two were "prized assets" and WE initiated the process for financial gain, then we would have been looking for far bigger fees than Red suggests we obtained? Compare and contrast the Fielden transfer, where the sum involved WAS massive? And, when the history books come to be written, the Fielden deal was probably up there with the Newlove deal in terms of importance to the club, I suspect.

Conversely, if THEY initiated the process (and I heard from the inevitable "good source" that Hape wanted out to Union some time before he finally went) then we'd be looking more at making the best of a bad job?

While we are about it, what was the tale with Robbie Paul?