: Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:13 am  

mystic eddie wrote:

Maybe Deacon will be leaving?......

: Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:20 am  

Ewwenorfolk wrote:

:PRAY:

: Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:38 am  

Ewwenorfolk wrote:

:shock:

Sykes / Deacon permanently for next season please no.

That doesn't bode well for next year...

: Wed Jul 29, 2009 11:28 am  

dholli12 wrote:

Just about to say that his "try assists" stat is pretty awesome for a team outside the top 8!

Should also point out that, with those try assists, he's responsible for nearly a quarter of all bradford's tries this season

: Wed Jul 29, 2009 11:28 am  

Ewwenorfolk wrote:

Deacon / Thorman

I have long admired Thorman & hope he re-discovers the form that made him an international. Though, TBF, he was never the best SH/SO in last 100 years for Sheffield/London/Parramatta/Huddersfield/Hull.

: Wed Jul 29, 2009 11:46 am  

tigertot wrote:

Sheffield/London/Parramatta/Huddersfield/Hull.

You've included the same team twice. I assume because he had two spells?

: Wed Jul 29, 2009 11:57 am  

tigertot wrote:

I have long admired Thorman & hope he re-discovers the form that made him an international. Though, TBF, he was never the best SH/SO in last 100 years for Sheffield/London/Parramatta/Huddersfield/Hull.

None of those Clubs are 100 years old


Sheffield - Started in the 80's by Gary Hetherington
London - Fulham were the first in 80's
Parramatta - founded in 1947
Huddersfield - see above
Hull - Gateshead thunder started in 1999

: Wed Jul 29, 2009 12:38 pm  

I think the main problem with Jeffries is the way that he seems to drift out games easily, especially when things aren't going his way. There's actually been a few games where I've had to check to see if he's even on the field

Until he can stamp his authority on games, literally 'take a game by the scruff of the neck' then he'll always be a bit of luxury player to me - someone who'll occasionally do something really good, or score a great try, but doesn't really do a proper playmaker job for the team.

Now this may be something to do with the overall shape of the team or the tactics employed. I don't think it helps him that Deacon isn't anywhere near the level he used to be - so he's often getting scrappy passes or being put into situations where he's too much under pressure. If he was playing outside a really good scrum half he might look better as a No 6?

: Wed Jul 29, 2009 12:45 pm  

paulwalker71 wrote:

I think the main problem with Jeffries is the way that he seems to drift out games easily, especially when things aren't going his way. There's actually been a few games where I've had to check to see if he's even on the field

Until he can stamp his authority on games, literally 'take a game by the scruff of the neck' then he'll always be a bit of luxury player to me - someone who'll occasionally do something really good, or score a great try, but doesn't really do a proper playmaker job for the team.

Now this may be something to do with the overall shape of the team or the tactics employed. I don't think it helps him that Deacon isn't anywhere near the level he used to be - so he's often getting scrappy passes or being put into situations where he's too much under pressure. If he was playing outside a really good scrum half he might look better as a No 6?

Don't forget that BJ is primarily a scrum half, not a stand off, and has therefore been playing out of position ever since he joined our club.
Those few games when Deacon was injured and BJ moved to seven showed just how much of a difference it makes - he was a far more influential player in those matches.

I still can't quite believe we're about to let BJ go and keep playing Deacon at 7, everybody can see that Deacs is past it now and I can't see us ever progressing as a club while he is still on the pitch.

: Wed Jul 29, 2009 12:47 pm  

Nothus wrote:

Don't forget that BJ is primarily a scrum half, not a stand off, and has therefore been playing out of position ever since he joined our club.
Those few games when Deacon was injured and BJ moved to seven showed just how much of a difference it makes - he was a far more influential player in those matches.

I still can't quite believe we're about to let BJ go and keep playing Deacon at 7, everybody can see that Deacs is past it now and I can't see us ever progressing as a club while he is still on the pitch.

Isn't Deacon still under contract for next season though?