: Sun Aug 02, 2009 6:03 am  

Adeybull wrote:

If we go into the final weekend of the season with the playoffs still being a possibility, and come out of the weekend with a place secured, then those who wished for Macca to drop players may be less sure?

Bear in mind that for the playoffs to remain mathematically possible we effectively have to win every game from now, so if/when we drop one then the situation will likely change significantly?

Looking at the fixtures left we will have to win every game.

If we beat Harlequins twice that's them dispatched, if we win our game in hand and beat hull away that's them and the same with our game in hand and Catalans at home.

That;s leaves Warrington in 8th place as realistically we can't catch the teams higher than them.

Warrington have Wigan Away, Wakefield at Home, Hull KR Away and Quins at home. A difficult run in really but Warrington are capable of winning every game in that run in leaving them a maximum of 30.

We can get a maximum of 29.

So a things stand we reallistically need Warrington to lose two matches Bulls to win five. Every game is a play off.

: Sun Aug 02, 2009 6:32 am  

Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza wrote:

Looking at the fixtures left we will have to win every game.

If we beat Harlequins twice that's them dispatched, if we win our game in hand and beat hull away that's them and the same with our game in hand and Catalans at home.

That;s leaves Warrington in 8th place as realistically we can't catch the teams higher than them.

Warrington have Wigan Away, Wakefield at Home, Hull KR Away and Quins at home. A difficult run in really but Warrington are capable of winning every game in that run in leaving them a maximum of 30.

We can get a maximum of 29.

So a things stand we reallistically need Warrington to lose two matches Bulls to win five. Every game is a play off.

We can get a maximum of 27, not 29 - 15 points now and 12 on offer.

We have to win the lot and wire drop 2 from 4, or win 5 and Wire drop 3 from 4. Then it depends on what Quins Cas and Wakey do, and its is still mathematically possible for us to finish 6th. Equally, if that lot get results in the right combination we could win 6 and still finish 9th. Realistically, we have to win the lot. So its out of our hands - all our lot have to do is go to win every one, and hope the others drop a few in the right combinations. Outside and probably undeserved chance at best. Not impossible but improbable I'd say?

: Sun Aug 02, 2009 7:24 am  

The Catalans are currently five points clear of us (admittedly with one game more played) with a fairly kind looking run in. They play....

Salford (a)
Hull FC (h)
Bulls (a)
Wakefield (h)
Saints (a)

Even allowing for unlikely away wins at Bradford and Saints, I reckon they will win the other three.

Wakefield winning at the weekend leaves three teams on 24 (at the moment) and I doubt we will catch any of them. With Hull being so bad recently the only sides we are really competing with for eighth embarrassingly are the downward spiral quins, Catalans and Wire. Just is not likely, but hardly unsurprising.

: Sun Aug 02, 2009 7:26 am  

Duckman wrote:

TBH at the moment I don't care about the playoffs, I just want to see us at least win all 3 remaining home games, Quins, Catalan, Salford - no reason we cant aim for this and give some enjoyment and hope for next season to our home support.

Exactly what hope would we have? Hope that we could maybe sneak into the playoffs next season?

If we go into 2010 with the same coaching staff, we can expect more of exactly the same.

: Sun Aug 02, 2009 7:35 am  

mystic eddie wrote:

Exactly what hope would we have? Hope that we could maybe sneak into the playoffs next season?

If we go into 2010 with the same coaching staff, we can expect more of exactly the same.

I was refering to the home attendances for next year really, and hope of seeing our team win moire than they lose at home - not silverware chances. We have only won 2 at home, 2!

If we end the season with 2 home wins it will not be a surprise to see home attendances fall further and season ticket renewals fall, as a lot of our walk up support seemingly wont just turn up to watch us lose week week out, they need to see wins for the effort and cost of turning up, and with our upcoming 3 home games they are all winnable.

If the home support finish the season seeing 3 wins on the bounce it will leave the average fan feeling a lot better about the club IMO and so will help overall despite what anyone thinks of the coaching setup.

: Sun Aug 02, 2009 8:28 am  

TBH, I don't really think that wins agains Quins, Salford and the Catalans at home at the end of the season are likely to have too many people queueing up to buy season tickets for next season.

: Sun Aug 02, 2009 8:36 am  

Bit concerned at how the 50/50 record only puts you 8th right now. Might be that even if we did win all our games, the teams below us might not win enough games for 27 points to be enough. Well, as concerned as you can be about a scenario that requires us to win as many games in five weeks as we have in the last umpteen.

: Sun Aug 02, 2009 8:38 am  

Adeybull wrote:

We can get a maximum of 27, not 29 - 15 points now and 12 on offer.

We have to win the lot and wire drop 2 from 4, or win 5 and Wire drop 3 from 4. Then it depends on what Quins Cas and Wakey do, and its is still mathematically possible for us to finish 6th. Equally, if that lot get results in the right combination we could win 6 and still finish 9th. Realistically, we have to win the lot. So its out of our hands - all our lot have to do is go to win every one, and hope the others drop a few in the right combinations. Outside and probably undeserved chance at best. Not impossible but improbable I'd say?

alriight smartarse who do you think you are? Carol Vorderman?

: Sun Aug 02, 2009 8:47 am  

Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza wrote:

alriight smartarse who do you think you are? Carol Vorderman?

No, just someone who has been posting on this subject for a couple of weeks now, so I am reasonably familiar with it. And anyway, I don't think I'd look that good in a tight skirt and heels flogging sub-prime loans on TV!

: Sun Aug 02, 2009 8:58 am  

Carol is a babe.