Re: Relegation.. : Sat Apr 12, 2014 9:18 pm  

We are going down,last night proved that

Re: Relegation.. : Sat Apr 12, 2014 10:15 pm  

Yep. I think it's pretty certain now. Baring a miracle. And I don't believe in miracles.

Re: Relegation.. : Sat Apr 12, 2014 11:02 pm  

It's up to the Players now, play every game like it's your last and show everybody what you can do. Don't wait until the last few games! Unless Green and Co come up with some magic beans there will be no Fairy Tale ending.....

[Bulliac]

Re: Relegation.. : Sun Apr 13, 2014 11:07 am  

Still believe what I said when people were calling the Salford game a "must win", and that is, that there are lots of bridges to cross before the end of the season and we'll maybe lose some we thought we might win, and win some we thought we might lose.

It just needs, at some point, us to find some form and have a good run of games and these tend to be self-perpetuating. Cas, who many thought would be relegation fodder, have had one early doors and are now already safe - even if the wheels fall off and we can do something similar during the season. Whether we do, of course, is the question, I guess.

Re: Relegation.. : Sun Apr 13, 2014 11:20 am  

debaser wrote: Yep. I think it's pretty certain now. Baring a miracle. And I don't believe in miracles. But, we can now independently TEST what you REALLY think! I have re-done last year's prediction table, which with any luck you can access here: http://tiny.cc/1m58dx The editable version is here: http://tinyurl.com/ltoa2se I have left my predictions in so your first job, after you have laughed at them, is to delete all the numbers and then start afresh. Alternatively leave them in and just change the ones you disagree with. All you do is put in where you think the points will go in each remaining fixture. So the first line is Hull KR v Hull. If you think KR will win, put a number 2 in the box under their name on that line. If you think FC will fin, put the 2 in their box If you predict a draw, then put 1 in each box. By the end of the spreadsheet, you will have predicted the rest of all games, without knowing where it will all end up, and at the bottom you'll find your ACTUAL predicted final league table. Which could be what you now think - or could be something completely different. Here's mine: St. Helens 54 Wigan 44 Leeds 41 Castleford 34 Widnes 30 Warrington 28 Hull KR 27 Salford ** 24 Hudds 22 Hull FC 22 Bradford 18 Catalans 16 Wakefield 10 London 2 Interestingly, it works out that a) we will not gather in any league points for quite a while, so will appear rooted at the foot; b) in the end, we may evade the bottom two relatively comfortably. Let's hope that I am some good at preditions. Or else just get tigertot to do it and then we can know for sure Now, there are some house rules. I DON'T CARE if you think my predictions or any of them are wrong, optimistic or whatever. So please do not bother telling me. The reason is, the predictions do not actually make any jot of difference to what will actually happen. Instead, if you make predictions of your own, by all means justify or explain them. But don't try to wind other people up by slagging off anybody's individual predictions. It's a bit of fun, and either enter into the spirit of it or I'd prefer you didn't bother. I'm just curious to know where other people arrive at, by doing the same whole-season prediction, cos I think it's interesting.

debaser wrote: Yep. I think it's pretty certain now. Baring a miracle. And I don't believe in miracles. But, we can now independently TEST what you REALLY think! I have re-done last year's prediction table, which with any luck you can access here: http://tiny.cc/1m58dx The editable version is here: http://tinyurl.com/ltoa2se I have left my predictions in so your first job, after you have laughed at them, is to delete all the numbers and then start afresh. Alternatively leave them in and just change the ones you disagree with. All you do is put in where you think the points will go in each remaining fixture. So the first line is Hull KR v Hull. If you think KR will win, put a number 2 in the box under their name on that line. If you think FC will fin, put the 2 in their box If you predict a draw, then put 1 in each box. By the end of the spreadsheet, you will have predicted the rest of all games, without knowing where it will all end up, and at the bottom you'll find your ACTUAL predicted final league table. Which could be what you now think - or could be something completely different. Here's mine: St. Helens 54 Wigan 44 Leeds 41 Castleford 34 Widnes 30 Warrington 28 Hull KR 27 Salford ** 24 Hudds 22 Hull FC 22 Bradford 18 Catalans 16 Wakefield 10 London 2 Interestingly, it works out that a) we will not gather in any league points for quite a while, so will appear rooted at the foot; b) in the end, we may evade the bottom two relatively comfortably. Let's hope that I am some good at preditions. Or else just get tigertot to do it and then we can know for sure Now, there are some house rules. I DON'T CARE if you think my predictions or any of them are wrong, optimistic or whatever. So please do not bother telling me. The reason is, the predictions do not actually make any jot of difference to what will actually happen. Instead, if you make predictions of your own, by all means justify or explain them. But don't try to wind other people up by slagging off anybody's individual predictions. It's a bit of fun, and either enter into the spirit of it or I'd prefer you didn't bother. I'm just curious to know where other people arrive at, by doing the same whole-season prediction, cos I think it's interesting.

Re: Relegation.. : Sun Apr 13, 2014 11:20 am  

We have to beat London and Wakefield again for sure, but even then we'd only have 2 points. Somehow, we need to beat a couple of sides that are higher up the table, or we are doomed.

Re: Relegation.. : Sun Apr 13, 2014 12:22 pm  

Could we go through the whole season and end up with a -2 points!!

Re: Relegation.. : Sun Apr 13, 2014 3:19 pm  

BullCharge wrote:

We have to beat London and Wakefield again for sure, but even then we'd only have 2 points. Somehow, we need to beat a couple of sides that are higher up the table, or we are doomed.

But, if all we beat was London and Wakefield, we would comprehensively and definitively thoroughly deserve to be relegated?

Re: Relegation.. : Sun Apr 13, 2014 3:30 pm  

I think we're getting ahead of ourselves if we think Wakefield at home is a 'gimme'

You can bet your bottom dollar that Wakefield are going to target that game as a 'make or break' for their season. As things stand it could be the difference between them being pulled back to being only 4 points ahead of us, or stretching it to an 8 point gap.

It's on June 1st BTW. Six games before that one - and I'm struggling to see where we are going to pick up any points in any of them frankly. That makes the Wakey game the archetypal 4 pointer, if ever there was one....

You could make the same argument about our game away to London in some ways, although being the last match of the season it could be academic anyway....

Re: Relegation.. : Sun Apr 13, 2014 4:11 pm  

I was hoping for a win over Salford & then possibly catching a fatigued Wigan on Easter Monday. Have to say I'm not optimistic we will win again now for quite a while and I think that defeat may have condemned us to relegation. Although knowing the Bulls they tend to do the opposite of what we expect so will probably beat Leeds and Wigan next week.