Re: Halifax (A) : Wed Apr 19, 2023 12:51 pm  

So Hull and Huddersfield make huge losses despite having millionaire owners. Who funds us out of curiosity and do we have huge losses?

I saw someone post that we need 3k sales a year, bullbuilder, foundation and 200k in central funding.

Is that enough to compete? Obviously if we finish higher than last year the funding is more.

Re: Halifax (A) : Wed Apr 19, 2023 1:18 pm  

As much as our owners/board get criticised a lot (at times deservedly so) I am quite glad we seem to keep our heads down and crack on rather than Chalmers bluster.

Keighley seem to he having a meltdown, even though I actually agree with them that IMG aren't the saviours.

[Bullseye]

Re: Halifax (A) : Wed Apr 19, 2023 1:30 pm  

As far as we're concerned we probably won't notice a difference whether the IMG proposals go through or not. Keeping our heads down and trying to make incremental improvements is probably all we can expect under the current ownership. Making sure the seats and terracing is cleaned up after the stock cars would be a start. Odsal was a state last weekend and taping off large swathes of dirty areas doesn't really address the issue.

Re: Halifax (A) : Wed Apr 19, 2023 2:14 pm  

Well the IMG proposals have passed. All 11 SL teams voted in favour (shocked at Cas and Wakey there). And only Fev, Batley, Barrow and Keighley voted against it in the Champ.

So the ones who have voted against it wouldn’t survive in SL anyway. Fev’s catchment area is also Wakey, Cas and Leeds. Batley and Keighley can’t really upgrade their facilities or get the crowds needed to survive. And even though Cumbria is a hotbed for talent, there never seems to be a lot of support for the three teams up there.

Everyone else like Newcastle, Halifax, York, Us, Widnes etc all have room to grow. Improve. Have the talent areas. Already have a decent stadium (probably ours is the worst of the those three). And all have potential to increase the crowds (I think we are higher that 2/3 SL teams at the moment). Even now we’d probably average 6-7k inc away support in SL.

What does surprise me is the likes of Swinton, Rochdale and Oldham voting for being in favour. As neither of these clubs will be anywhere near the mid levels of the grading system. To vote against would be in their best interests as they are yo-yo clubs really.

Votes For:

All SL Clubs (minus Catalan who have no vote)
Sheffield
York
Newcastle
Widnes
Bradford
Halifax
Swinton
London Broncos.
Doncaster
Midlands
Cornwall
Rochdale
Workington
Oldham
North Wales

Against:

Featherstone
Batley
Keighley
Barrow
Hunslet
Dewsbury

Abstained:

London Skolars
Whitehaven
West Wales

Make of that what you will.

33 in favour. 6 against. 3 abstains. Vote passes at 88%.

[Bullseye]

Re: Halifax (A) : Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:12 pm  

Fev voted against for the reason that apparently if you're a grade B club and finish top of the championship there's no guarantee you'd replace a grade B club if they finished bottom of SL. That seems totally fair enough to me. If there are B's in both places they should swap.

Re: Halifax (A) : Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:18 pm  

Bullseye wrote:

Fev voted against for the reason that apparently if you're a grade B club and finish top of the championship there's no guarantee you'd replace a grade B club if they finished bottom of SL. That seems totally fair enough to me. If there are B's in both places they should swap.

Aren’t they going for a 14 team SL though? According to the powerpoint IMG and RFL published everything indicated towards a 14 team SL unless that’s changed?

Re: Halifax (A) : Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:00 pm  

Bullseye wrote:

Fev voted against for the reason that apparently if you're a grade B club and finish top of the championship there's no guarantee you'd replace a grade B club if they finished bottom of SL. That seems totally fair enough to me. If there are B's in both places they should swap.

Apparently that reasoning is wrong. Your right in why Fev declined but apparently in October and in the IMG Proposal Meetings. It was said that if a club finished bottom of SL with a B rating and the winner of the Champ had a B rating. They would swap places.

That was from a piece Matt Shaw wrote in October and was confirmed in IMG Rugby League Council meeting. Although that is coming from Matt Shaw. I’m personally not sure on the reliability of RL Journos or whos the most informative.

[Bullseye]

Re: Halifax (A) : Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:13 pm  

Surely Fev knew what they were voting o? Or have they made a mistake like Salford and London Skolars?

Re: Halifax (A) : Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:29 pm  

Bullseye wrote:

Surely Fev knew what they were voting o? Or have they made a mistake like Salford and London Skolars?

I’m only going by what Matt Shaw’s piece said from last October. I’m not sure if that still applies. But even Fev are happy apparently with the vast majority of the proposal. Just not all of it. Reading now that Salford and Skolars cannot change their vote however it’s been noted in the minutes for the meeting their desire to change votes.

[Pumpetypump]

Re: Halifax (A) : Thu Apr 20, 2023 7:06 am  

They also had some disquiet about the stipulation that fans must only have 10 fingers.