Re: Latest state of play posts only : Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:10 am  

Bullpower2012 wrote:

where did you direct these warnings??? to the Shareholding? the RFL? or on RLFANS????

Too many are critical and want to say "I told you so" rather than getting off the arriss's and doing something - there was a poster yesterday belittling the efforts of those organising the meeting yesterday.... WHAT HAVE YOU DONE? apart from blather on incessantly on a website......

I wrote to Peter Hood but mainly I like, many others on here, allowed myself to be shouted down by a coalition of morons and agents of the club who were being fed disinformation in order to silence criticism.

I didn't belittle the efforts of anyone organsing a meeting.

Re: Latest state of play posts only : Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:15 am  

af wrote:

... How were those with a 'Hood's all we've got' mentality, of which I was one, supposed to know all that was going on behind the scenes?

Hood was all we had. With him removed, nobody else has stepped forward. There's the proof.

Unless of course you have the view, which I would consider deluded, that there would have been some all-knowing, financial genius with pots of cash that would have stepped in a year or two ago, but didn't, and won't now - even though from the point of view of an investor, stepping in now, free of debts and more to the point free of the tangled boardroom web which went before, must surely be a prospect ten times more appealing..

And of course nobody knows what goes on behind the scenes in any business, apart from those running it and those closest to them, nor ever will. FFS, apart from being in the crapper, we even now have no real clue what went on, or how it came to April 2012.

We don't even know that much about what has happened since the old Board was forced out and we went into admin. They and the temporary new incumbents issued wildly contrasting claims and counterclaims, and there it rests.

[Pumpetypump]

Re: Fans Meeting at City Hall - Mon 7pm : Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:16 am  

Gurus_Beard wrote:

Snippity snip

Now then boys and girls. Those of you that have wondered if GB is Mr Caisley should take great comfort from this post. The tone of it is don't throw yourself under a bus, we might yet be saved.

Personally, I knew for sure that we were in a REALLY bad way when even Bullseye was suicidal. In my experience if Sam thinks things are bad, then they must be VERY bad.

Re: Latest state of play posts only : Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:27 am  

M@islebugs wrote:

I wrote to Peter Hood but mainly I like, many others on here, allowed myself to be shouted down by a coalition of morons and agents of the club who were being fed disinformation in order to silence criticism.

I didn't belittle the efforts of anyone organsing a meeting.

You wrote to Peter Hood to tell him how much a bad job he was doing Do you think he gave your advice credence or do you think he took your letter and binned it?

Surely you would of been better writing to the Shareholding if thats how passionately you felt - Hood was never going to sack himself was he......

Never said you did belittle anyone, I stated another poster

Re: Fans Meeting at City Hall - Mon 7pm : Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:34 am  

Tinkering will not be enough to sustain the viability of this lame duck. Cut the crap and let's have some serious investment from those reputed to care.As previously said,this is terrible PR for SL and the Bulls.As for CC,absolutely disgusting and deplorable that we still await some explanation as to the progress of his intent or otherwise ,of his involvement.ALL parties should remember the massive effort of fans,players and Clubs to raise the original £500,000 and consequentially, have obligations to show expediency and communicate with the supporters (Part of the Family which is the RFL).

Re: Fans Meeting at City Hall - Mon 7pm : Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:34 am  

Sam might need to speak to Duffy - he's the welfare officer at the club (State of Mind). Oh, wait..

Re: Latest state of play posts only : Tue Jul 31, 2012 12:08 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

Heheh, you were the man who would have saved the Bulls, all hunky dory if only "they" had listened to you. Riiight. You had a team of rich business experts just waiting to ride in and make the club wealthy, if only.

Neither you nor anyone without the inside track on the Bulls' internal finances would have had any clue whether the management were "up to the job", so stop trying to big yourself up as if you were some sort of Oracle. You knew nothing.

Or if you really did know, then I blame YOU, for not spilling the beans, and forcing the issue.

That obvious point aside, calls for the board to resign seem to be endemic across all sports. What is rare as rocking horse shiit is the provision of better alternatives. Or indeed ANY alternatives. And of course our board DID, eventually, stand down. Much good that's done us.

You've actually been talking some sense lately. Been ill?

Two points
1, I don't have an inside track. I saw everything that you saw and concluded correctly. However, one group of people did have an inside track. The RFL audited the club as part of its SL license and then Peter Hood came and asked them for 700k (presuming the RFL didn't make an unsolicited offer). This should have given them grounds for seeking further information/input. Surely you must see this as a serious failing or at least a point in this story where something 'different' might have happened.

2, There were alternatives. Martyn Sadler knew of at least three consortium who were interested in buying the Bulls who (according to Guilfoyle) withdrew when they saw the books.
Your points about the nature of 'conditions' in these negotiations are well made but both parties are still using the term 'condition' with the regards to the purchase/sale of the lease.

The points stands, had their been intervention sooner when the RFL had grounds there is a reasonable chance the situation could have been brought to light sooner and the scale of the disaster would almost certainly not be as great as it now is

Re: Latest state of play posts only : Tue Jul 31, 2012 12:09 pm  

Bullpower2012 wrote:

You wrote to Peter Hood to tell him how much a bad job he was doing Do you think he gave your advice credence or do you think he took your letter and binned it?

Surely you would of been better writing to the Shareholding if thats how passionately you felt - Hood was never going to sack himself was he......

Never said you did belittle anyone, I stated another poster

Well he certainly didn't act on it or we wouldn't be where we are now.

Re: Latest state of play posts only : Tue Jul 31, 2012 12:15 pm  

Bullpower2012 wrote:

Never said you did belittle anyone, I stated another poster

Brilliant

Re: Latest state of play posts only : Tue Jul 31, 2012 12:15 pm  

steamingbull02 wrote:

The plain facts are if the RFL hadn't helped us out we would be in even worse crap now, I'm sick and tired now of listening to so called bulls fans bitching on how badly done to they are, nobody knows what gun the abc consortium are holding to the RFL's head, yet you all reckon to be in the know.

They've thrown bucket loads of money our way in the last 24 months just to keep us afloat, they didn't have to, why should the RFL look weak and bow down to this group when one of them has just taken his bat and ball home!

It makes me sick that people think they have the right to demand when they havent got all the facts in front of them!

Bradford and the sdminstraters have got is into this crap not the RFL, as a fan of this club for 30 years I couldnt bring myself to support them again I knew we had heald a gun to the RFL's head. We are family club with (I thought higher morals than that) a a reputation of being honest, I couldn't support knowing we had ridden rough shot over everything we stand for!

Selfish and ungreatfull springs to mind regarding some so called fans!

I hope everyone's quite happy with themselves who screamed for admin, it's turning us into a soiled little club!!!

Rant over!