Re: Latest state of play posts only : Tue Jul 31, 2012 6:54 pm  

Bets'y Bulls wrote:

...Any suggestions from all the fans saying just sell players to cover wage bill, please address directly to Mr Administrator, c/o Odsal Stadium, Bradford as I am sure he would benefit from your expertise

This.

Also some of said people need a refresher on role and responsibilities of an administrator, as many appear to be confused to near-Olympic standard.

Re: Latest state of play posts only : Tue Jul 31, 2012 6:55 pm  

Bets'y Bulls wrote:

Can i put forward a question to the folks from other clubs suggesting we simply sell players to fund the August wage bill?

Pure speculation but lets say Hull FC offer £10k for Whitehead, Wire offer £15k for Bateman, Wigan offer £10k for Kearney and Leeds £5k for l'Estrange. On the basis Wakey appeared to get £5k per player when they were in a similar sitution to us but much earlier in the season compared to where we are now, these figures dont appear unreasonable. Also include the fact the most squads of teams above wont have much money under cap left (probably!), s/l deadline for signings seems to have passed and in a few weeks they can probably get most of above for nowt they dont need to be raiding benefactors piggy banks to make massive bids

If this did happen our reported £160k monthly wage bill would drop by say £20k (?) as I think Whitehead & Bateman are still on their original contracts so not massive salaries this would give us £40k liquid cash to cover wage bill now in region of £140k. Any suggestions from all the fans saying just sell players to cover wage bill, please address directly to Mr Administrator, c/o Odsal Stadium, Bradford as I am sure he would benefit from your expertise

Great post except you probably overstated the amounts we'd get at this point

Re: Latest state of play posts only : Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:06 pm  

: The RFL could have intervened if by no other means saying, 'no Peter, you can't have 700k'. Cibaman makes the case a few posts back. We would have got to where we were last March much sooner and still holding the lease. The club would have entered administration having not lost both the RFL's and the supporters cash. The lease would not now be a 'condition' and the RFL sat with a £1.5 million piece of paper. These factors mean the situation is now much, much worse than the day Peter said 'give me 700k please'.

And, in answer to some other criticisms, whilst I don't know what Maislebugs did or said when he wrote to Peter Hood, I PERSONALLY posted on this site a request for fans to come together and make a protest two years ago when it became obvious that the management were allowing the club to drift into lower crowds, less sponsorship thus (as I sadly predicted) creating a downward spiral of events into oblivion. I suggested a sit-down protest - Warrington style - and all I got was a tirade of responses telling me that I didn't understand that really it was Caisley and Noble to blame, not Hood and McNamara. Mmmm. Shows how much I knew (despite a lifetime in management!). The real tragedy is that none of it helps us now and we are where we are - but some day we need some answers.

[Bulliac]

Re: Latest state of play posts only : Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:46 pm  

Bets'y Bulls wrote:

Can i put forward a question to the folks from other clubs suggesting we simply sell players to fund the August wage bill?

Pure speculation but lets say Hull FC offer £10k for Whitehead, Wire offer £15k for Bateman, Wigan offer £10k for Kearney and Leeds £5k for l'Estrange. On the basis Wakey appeared to get £5k per player when they were in a similar sitution to us but much earlier in the season compared to where we are now, these figures dont appear unreasonable. Also include the fact the most squads of teams above wont have much money under cap left (probably!), s/l deadline for signings seems to have passed and in a few weeks they can probably get most of above for nowt they dont need to be raiding benefactors piggy banks to make massive bids

If this did happen our reported £160k monthly wage bill would drop by say £20k (?) as I think Whitehead & Bateman are still on their original contracts so not massive salaries this would give us £40k liquid cash to cover wage bill now in region of £140k. Any suggestions from all the fans saying just sell players to cover wage bill, please address directly to Mr Administrator, c/o Odsal Stadium, Bradford as I am sure he would benefit from your expertise

It's an excellent effort mate - though if anyone wants to have a sweep on the time of the next post from a fan of another club telling us to sell players, I'll go for, ooohh..just turned nine o'clock.

Re: Latest state of play posts only : Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:49 pm  

Pumpetypump wrote:

In very simplistic terms:

Consortium "Ok here's our offer to buy the club, but we need to know if the club can carry on with the last 2 years of our Superleague licence"

RFL "How dare you make an offer with such conditions attached.."

Has it been confirmed anywhere that they only wanted to know if it was just for this licence period?

Re: Latest state of play posts only : Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:22 pm  

So it is stated further up that ABC have put in a THIRD bid. Do you really want someone in charge who has tried it on twice already. Do they really love the club as much as that. They certainly seem desperate to get into Odsall

Re: Latest state of play posts only : Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:29 pm  

DemonUK wrote:

So it is stated further up that ABC have put in a THIRD bid. Do you really want someone in charge who has tried it on twice already. Do they really love the club as much as that. They certainly seem desperate to get into Odsall

It's called negotiation.

Re: Latest state of play posts only : Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:42 pm  

DemonUK wrote:

So it is stated further up that ABC have put in a THIRD bid. Do you really want someone in charge who has tried it on twice already. Do they really love the club as much as that. They certainly seem desperate to get into Odsall

Perhaps they are 'desperate' to save the club and build it up again

The truth is we don't know anything about the motivations of ABC - heck, we don't even know who they are

Re: Latest state of play posts only : Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:43 pm  

It's called land-grab. Can anyone be that desperate to own a rugby league club? Doubtful. Can anyone be that desperate to get hold of a piece of land? Yep.

Re: Latest state of play posts only : Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:53 pm  

how about they buy the lease for £1.25m, pay off all debts and deposit £1m with the RFL to fund the club for the next 2 years that would mean they are still Bradford Bulls and serious about Rugby League.....but they probably want to start up as a newco with no debts, pay nowt for the lease and retain all the star players and be guarantedd SL status for the next 5 years with Sky money for next year up front....

Thats the 2 extremes of what the bids could be.....LOL!!!!!!