[Bulliac]

Re: Current Pledge Number : Thu Aug 18, 2011 1:06 pm  

Adeybull wrote:

My guess is that they will just keep taking the payments up to the 3,000 regardless of the pledge count, since anyone paying has by implication pledged, so for that purpose the pledge count is irrelevant.

When I paid, over the phone, the guy asked if I had pledged (I had). Which suggests they were trying to ensure that double-counting of pledges did not take place for those who had pledged then subsequently paid?

Actually I was thinking more about when they cut off for the 3k rather than the correlation between pledges and payments . If the office is open but they have a few hundred unopened posts on the table (maybe containing cheques) and people in the office or ringing in it might be a bit blurry round the edges. Though I'd guess they would stop it at an 'appropriate moment, probably at the end of the day's trading, around the 3k mark, rather than make great efforts to separate no. 3000 from no. 3001.

Re: Current Pledge Number : Thu Aug 18, 2011 1:22 pm  

Sensei-Bull wrote:

From Bulls site:

Bradford Bulls are calling on all 2011 members to PLEDGE NOW for the 2012 season.
To date, there are still 9,349 people who have been members for the 2011 season that have not yet pledged for the 2012 season.
This combined with over 2,000 pledges already received, many of which have come from new members, will get the Bulls within reaching distance of the 12,000 target.

Is it just me that's worried over this increasing tone of desperation?

There are pretty compelling reasons why most of those 9349 are not rushing to pledge. And simply bashing them over the head with 'please...please...PLEASE PLEDGE' isn't going to do the trick for most of them IMO

Re: Current Pledge Number : Thu Aug 18, 2011 1:29 pm  

paulwalker71 wrote:

Is it just me that's worried over this increasing tone of desperation?

Quite possibly. One man's increasing tone of desperation is another man's reasonable attempts to keep the pot boiling

paulwalker71 wrote:

There are pretty compelling reasons why most of those 9349 are not rushing to pledge. And simply bashing them over the head with 'please...please...PLEASE PLEDGE' isn't going to do the trick for most of them IMO

IYO fair enough, but IMO as soon as last year's pledge was announced - and it took similar flak, in spades, for weeks if not months - the bottom line was it was too good an offer to miss, and so I said confidently they'd do it, and of course they did. If the marketing tacticians got it right last season - why do we have doubters this season? It's illogical. Anyway, they now have solid form for "doing the trick" so I'm not "worried" at all. I think predictions of between 10K - 12K are eminently sensible. But my point is, the Bulls proved the knockers and doubters and naysayers 100% wrong last year, so maybe you should give them the benefit of your doubt?

Re: Current Pledge Number : Thu Aug 18, 2011 1:45 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

IYO fair enough, but IMO as soon as last year's pledge was announced - and it took similar flak, in spades, for weeks if not months - the bottom line was it was too good an offer to miss, and so I said confidently they'd do it, and of course they did. If the marketing tacticians got it right last season - why do we have doubters this season? It's illogical.

Not from me. I confidently expected the pledge last season to top 10K.

The difference this time is that those many, many floaters who were enticed not only be low prices, but by promises of much improved performances, signings 'to whet the appetite', improved game day experience etc etc, are highly likely to be somewhat more cynical this time around. Personally I have spoken to people who were fans back in our glory days a few years ago, drifted away, and were enticed back last year. In all cases, they aren't pledging for next year. The 'novelty factor' that our marketing team had last season simply doesn't exist this time around.

I'd love to be proved wrong on this, of course - and, just in case anyone wonders, I have already pledged and paid for 2012.

Re: Current Pledge Number : Thu Aug 18, 2011 3:35 pm  

totally agree with the last post, This new deal is still by far one of the best in the league but how do you entice the floaters this time around. I myself jumped back on the s/t bandwagon last year after the original pledge was launched having picked and chose my games due to work/family commitments the previous two years and i was partially influenced by the "promises" re signings, new dawn, and with a young family now ,the improved gameday experience but im afraid out of the 4 of us i will be the only one returning next year.

Re: Let's hit 15k !!!! : Thu Aug 18, 2011 3:39 pm  

lets hit 15k, is that season ticket pledges or points conceded in a season

Re: Let's hit 15k !!!! : Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:17 pm  

MARKG wrote:

lets hit 15k, is that season ticket pledges or points conceded in a season

Clearly it's season ticket pledges, given that we're now nearly up to 3 pages discussing just that very thing. It's bad enough enduring the poor performances on the pitch, but there's been a markedly large drop in the quality of trolling on here.

Re: Let's hit 15k !!!! : Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:42 pm  

Got 4 Season Tickets today at guaranteed max price (with refund if more than 12000 pledges recd), plus son and daughter have 5 year deals. So thats 5.5 pledges (incl one junior) to add to list. Get in there!

Re: Current Pledge Number : Thu Aug 18, 2011 5:10 pm  

The floaters paying a fiver a match with this seasons pledge purchase expected us to get into the top four and a wembley final and feel they have somehow been cheated out of £60 even though you couldn't get into Dudley Hill for that price. I have pledged even though I might only be able to make five home games next season! I think a realistic season ticket price should have been around £150 and offer credit to those struggling to find the money in one go!

Re: Current Pledge Number : Thu Aug 18, 2011 5:34 pm  

I would be pretty confident of getting a similar number to last season as its still a really good deal. I would have thought we'd captured everyone who wanted a ticket last season and without improving on the pitch can't see where more fans are coming from to make any talk of 15K anything but dreams.

Would be interested to know what the actual number of bought season tickets was last year. We know the pledge total but not how many bought and how many ended up buying who didn't pledge once they knew it was £60. If that was around 12K then I think with the changing of the counting on juniors, we'll make it.

I've bought 1, with all the talk on here though I'm feeling inadequate and may go and adopt some kids and buy some more!