: Sun Jul 05, 2009 7:13 pm  

DILLIGAF wrote:

There's a special thread for trolling. Kindly use it.

I thought that this was a thread about where posters thought that the Bulls would finish in SL,i apologise for appearing to be a troll,but surely that is down to your inept side and not me?

: Sun Jul 05, 2009 7:14 pm  

DILLIGAF wrote:

I actually think now it's time to try and take something else out of this season.

Realistically, we are not going to make the playoffs.

So let's give that up as a bad job until next year and look to give some of the supposedly promising youngsters some decent game time. So what if we lose? If it means these players are better for it, then it's worth it.

I'm not saying put a full academy side out, but get some of the supposedly best ones in the team.

I for one would be more inclined to want to watch a game that was giving players like Donaldson a really good run out and Menzies at right centre, than any game that involves the revolving door of wonder currently playing 3.

To be fair, it does appear to be what is already happening. I do wonder if Cook is on his way at the end of the year because Macca seems to be favouring giving some of the young guys a run out. I expect we'll see plenty of them next year. It is a huge shame that Crookes got injured, because we'd have a better idea by now if he could be a first teamer for us.

: Sun Jul 05, 2009 7:15 pm  

Bully_Boxer wrote:

To be fair, it does appear to be what is already happening. I do wonder if Cook is on his way at the end of the year because Macca seems to be favouring giving some of the young guys a run out. I expect we'll see plenty of them next year. It is a huge shame that Crookes got injured, because we'd have a better idea by now if he could be a first teamer for us.

I wouldn't call 4 minutes a run out.

: Sun Jul 05, 2009 7:16 pm  

redeverready wrote:

So do really think that we can win 7 of 9. Which is form we haven't shown since early 2006.

Erm have I not already stated my view?

I just disagreed with the comment that the play offs were now gone. They aren't 'gone' we've just made our task a lot tougher, perhaps too tough but time will tell.

: Sun Jul 05, 2009 7:17 pm  

Bully_Boxer wrote:

Well whilst I may not think they can make the 8, it isn't over until it's over.

Save yourself the despair mate. It's over.
Bulls are a shadow of our former selves and nothing will change until the coaching staff at this club are removed and brought in their place a team of coaches that know how to motivate, instill discipline and mental toughness in their players.

: Sun Jul 05, 2009 7:17 pm  

Bully_Boxer wrote:

To be fair, it does appear to be what is already happening. I do wonder if Cook is on his way at the end of the year because Macca seems to be favouring giving some of the young guys a run out. I expect we'll see plenty of them next year. It is a huge shame that Crookes got injured, because we'd have a better idea by now if he could be a first teamer for us.

I completely agree on Cook and have said the same. The fact he's being left out does suggest he might be leaving.

Although he's putting the youngsters in a little, 4 minutes at the end of the game isn't going to help anyone. Don't get me wrong, I understand why he didn't want to throw on a debut 17 year old when the game was so close today. However there are clear underperformers in that team that need to be shown they're not auto choices.

Use what's left of this season to hammer that in to those players and give the kids a chance. If one of them performs well, we have essentially a new player.

As well as Donaldson, Olbison, Whitehead, I'd like to see them try out Keiran Hyde at 6 with Jeffries at 7. Even if it's only for one or two games just to give him some experience and let Deacon know that his performances are not good enough to stay in the team.


Oh and before someone says "Hyde isn't good enough" or something to that effect, can he really be any worse than how players like Deacon and Sykes have been "performing"?

: Sun Jul 05, 2009 7:21 pm  

redeverready wrote:

I wouldn't call 4 minutes a run out.

So would you prefer to see him thrown into the action against much bigger opposition whilst we're chasing the game? Whitehead got a much longer run out at Wire after his short debut and I'm sure Donaldson will get some more game time. But I've had this debate before..

: Sun Jul 05, 2009 7:22 pm  

DILLIGAF wrote:

I completely agree on Cook and have said the same. The fact he's being left out does suggest he might be leaving.

Although he's putting the youngsters in a little, 4 minutes at the end of the game isn't going to help anyone. Don't get me wrong, I understand why he didn't want to throw on a debut 17 year old when the game was so close today. However there are clear underperformers in that team that need to be shown they're not auto choices.

Use what's left of this season to hammer that in to those players and give the kids a chance. If one of them performs well, we have essentially a new player.

As well as Donaldson, Olbison, Whitehead, I'd like to see them try out Keiran Hyde at 6 with Jeffries at 7. Even if it's only for one or two games just to give him some experience and let Deacon know that his performances are not good enough to stay in the team.


Oh and before someone says "Hyde isn't good enough" or something to that effect, can he really be any worse than how players like Deacon and Sykes have been "performing"?

Donaldson could have come on at stand off in place of Deacon who was doing nothing again.

: Sun Jul 05, 2009 7:26 pm  

DILLIGAF wrote:

Although he's putting the youngsters in a little, 4 minutes at the end of the game isn't going to help anyone. Don't get me wrong, I understand why he didn't want to throw on a debut 17 year old when the game was so close today. However there are clear underperformers in that team that need to be shown they're not auto choices.

It would have been interesting to see what minutes he would have got if we hadn't thrown away our lead at the start of the 2nd half. The coach has to strike a balance between making sure we get the result and giving the guy his chance. In both games where Whitehead and Donaldson made their debut the result was still in the balance. I'd like to have seen him on longer but I think the coach has to make a call on whether it is the right time during the game.

: Sun Jul 05, 2009 7:26 pm  

Terry Monster wrote:

Save yourself the despair mate. It's over.
Bulls are a shadow of our former selves and nothing will change until the coaching staff at this club are removed and brought in their place a team of coaches that know how to motivate, instill discipline and mental toughness in their players.

Ive seen this in the bulls and been called a troll for it when I've mentioned it and I can understand some of your reactions when it comes from a Leeds fan!! The term I used was "garbage" which would put a few noses out of joint and again it's my bad and can see why it didn't go down well!! When I see the bulls or listen to them on the radio!! I see a team that has massive issues all over the park and off it!! This is as weaker bulls team as I've ever seen.