I've got a question, is Rick from Halifax able to ask a question without having a go at Bradford? So far he's had 3 attempts and failed miserably.

Don't be ridiculous. The answer is clearly no.

Define "influence". Like I said it depends on whether his shareholding is enough to have any influence. If not then no big deal. If yes then no deal.

Depends the %age of shares he has against the biggest one. If he has say a third if the shares he's an influence, les than that, he's noise. Let's face it, there doesn't seem to be any previous link between Green and Richardson, so I don't see how he could have been in a strong negotiating position to demand a big share.

To be fair to the players you can't blame them if they feel this gives them the best option of maintaining an income at the contracted salary they had agreed previously. I am sure we would all do the same with families to provide for and bills to pay

God I must sound like a broken record but nobody is clarifying my point...

The criteria outlined yesterday were for a NEW rugby club to be admitted were they not? We are talking about an EXISTING club, so those criteria may very well not even apply to this scenario!

Secondly, if we are to believe that Chalmers and Lowe's bid was approved by the RFL, then they supposedly passed the fit and proper persons test despite their past dealings, so who's to actually say Green wouldn't pass? Who knows what the criteria for the fit and proper persons test actually is?

Players "selfish"? WTF?

On what basis would a player being effectively offered continued employment at the club where he plays be "selfish" to sign up?

What would they suggest? "No way, not unless the people who got the last company into administration pay off all that company's debts, I prefer to lose my job and my house and send the wife down the dole office, cos I'm not 'selfish', me. Never mind that the deal complies fully with English law and is passed by the RFL, there's a guy on the internet who would call me selfish if I keep my job so no, that's a red line for me, that guy".

Shaw is a total and utter kn0b typical idiot halifax inferiority complex, moron

Good points. I sort of expected the criteria that were online yesterday wouldn't be too different to what they were working to previously. You'd kind of expect them to be the same or similar.

Point about Chalmers is well made considering his past of failed businesses and people being left out of pocket. If he passed the fit and proper test then the test isn't really that good and we can't assume Green would fail it either based on what's known.

Why didn't the RFL publish the criteria for the fit and proper person test? We could speculate...

No you don't, but there are still many on the forum saying "Green can't be involved", so just wanted to point out that for Newco the RFL have left themselves a nice little loophole to jump through to refer to if Richardson can bring us out of admin...

Fax Fan "Argh!!! Green's involved!!! 24 points!!!! Sacrifice the Tea-Lady naked on Rooley Terracing and start in the lowest pennine league div!!!! Anything else is favouritism!!!!!!"

RFL "We are satisfied he'll have no influence. Move along now..."

Indeed. One of the things that gets me through the current carnage is just how miserable they must be. If we do stop existing, I'll be at fax games in my red amber and black. I can cope with putting a few quid into their club for the good of rugby league if I get to remind them that they still fundamentally hate themselves.

You're confusing club and company/owner. There is no way the legal entity i.e. BBHL will be bought and continue to trade. A new entity (Bradford Bulls Capital Ltd) will be the "owner". But that business can legally buy the whole, or any part of the old business from the administrator.

For internal purposes when the RFL talk about the club they effectively mean what used to be called the "franchise", it isn't a legal entity. But it was thus BBHL that ceased to be a member and it would be BBCL that would be applying to be admitted; on the basis that if admitted they play under the existing franchise, or club.

Think of it this way - if it was both a new owner AND a new club in RFL terms, that would be like saying they were passing on the Bulls franchise, but instead starting from scratch as Bradford Phoenix or whatever. The RFL see the value in keeping "the club" ie a Bulls franchise alive and that for I think obvious reasons suits the new potential owners too.