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Re: 2018 Bradford Bulls : Wed Aug 30, 2017 12:02 am  
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Doesn't seem that we are going to recruit anybody that I would want to pay to see.


Why do you have the 2018 team list in front of you? :D
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Re: 2018 Bradford Bulls : Wed Aug 30, 2017 7:48 pm  
Well, as a blast from the past, I got a letter from the liquidators of OK Bulls today, with the access codes for viewing the most recent liquidators report. I really can't be bothered just now. Maybe later.
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Re: 2018 Bradford Bulls : Wed Aug 30, 2017 7:53 pm  
I like how we are been bombarded with positive news
In order to hit the goal of 3000 tickets next month...
What a pile of doggy doo...
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Re: 2018 Bradford Bulls : Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:28 pm  
Went to legends Origin Legends game tonight. Can we not tempt some of these old blokes out of retirement. Sean Long, Lee Gilmour, Tommy Martyn, Chris Thorman, Richard Horne and RHP all looking very sharp still. Great evening of entertainment and Jimmy Lowes even got sent off.
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Re: 2018 Bradford Bulls : Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:52 am  
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I like how we are been bombarded with positive news
In order to hit the goal of 3000 tickets next month...
What a pile of doggy doo...


Well Sam Hallas signing is excellent news. Said in T&A yesterday Gibson & Smith were contracted for next year, but that doesn't necessarily mean they will be here. If they are than that's 2 more good signings who will do well in L1. I's hard to Gage what sort of squad we will have this early. It will be a case of waiting until we have around 20 players signed up of what sort of team we will have. For example Davies been offered a P/T deal. That could be a very poor signing if the likes of Macani, Mendeika, Halafihi are signing up with him. But if we sign up a decent pack, then giving Davies a P/T deal isn't too bad. Same with Sam Hallas signing, while i'm very happy with that news, we could sign Sam Burgess and it wouldn't matter if we still have a right hand side of Macani, Mendeika, & C. Smith. Inevitably they will be poor players signing. For me i want to know who our new coach will be before this season finishes.

The challenge Chalmers will have is that there aren't many players in the current squad worthy of FT deals, those that are (Chisholm, Sironen, Campbell, Oakes) aren't likely to sign for us. For me i would offer mainly the younger players FT deals. Then we have a good young nucleus to build with. Get some rough, old seasoned PT players (someone mentioned Richard Moore earlier who would be perfect)
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Re: 2018 Bradford Bulls : Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:59 am  
Campbell is leaving.

Agree with you Bull Mania.
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Re: 2018 Bradford Bulls : Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:33 am  
I don't see why we can't hang on to Chisholm.
Who did we beat to his signature a couple of months ago.
Who signed him when we went bust and he was out of work - yes, Sheffield took him when nobody else signed him.
By the start of the season in only 5 months he may not even have played a game after a very serious knee injury.
He clearly has not been knocking back lucrative offers from lots of SL clubs and even Championship clubs otherwise he would not have been part time at Sheffield and then a doomed championship club. He reminds me a little of Sammut who seemed to have a reputation of winning matches but never played for a top club and struggled in lower leagues.

If Chisholm wasn't wanted last December why would he be in great demand right now with his knee the way it is.
If we do keep him and we put a decent squad together he will get a bag full of tries next season as long as his knee is OK and that is the worry with him for other clubs.
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Re: 2018 Bradford Bulls : Thu Aug 31, 2017 12:48 pm  
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Well Sam Hallas signing is excellent news. Said in T&A yesterday Gibson & Smith were contracted for next year, but that doesn't necessarily mean they will be here. If they are than that's 2 more good signings who will do well in L1.


Those on two-year deals have options in contract for either party (club or player) to terminate following relegation. This will mean that the player may well be interested in staying but the club could exercise the release clause and cut loose on cost basis.

To my knowledge Hallas, Tonga, Smith, Gibson and Chisholm are all on two year deals but I don't see us keeping anyone but Hallas. I think the club would be keen to keep Chissy but of there is a better offer elsewhere I think he'll jump ship.

The only thing I think is holding the club back is the decision of the re-structure, however unlikely it is to happen. If the RFL do switch it up and keep us in it, this could mean players the club wished to ditch have a contractual obligation and therefore unless there is a mutual agreement, we are stuck with them.

For me, Tonga and Gibson are expensive yet injury prone squad members we don't need. You could through Smith into the mix too.

As always, nobody can make a decision until the RFL decide which way the wind is blowing!!!
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Re: 2018 Bradford Bulls : Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:31 pm  
I think a big thing holding the club back must be the tribunal proceedings. If they are held liable to pay dozens of claimants thousands of pounds each (I have no idea of the amounts being claimed) that money will have to come from somewhere. We don't have any and we're not looking for investors so the only remaining plcae is the 2018 budget. Unless we get a payday loan from Provident to pay for any compo that might be awarded.
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Re: 2018 Bradford Bulls : Thu Aug 31, 2017 3:21 pm  
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Those on two-year deals have options in contract for either party (club or player) to terminate following relegation. This will mean that the player may well be interested in staying but the club could exercise the release clause and cut loose on cost basis.

To my knowledge Hallas, Tonga, Smith, Gibson and Chisholm are all on two year deals but I don't see us keeping anyone but Hallas. I think the club would be keen to keep Chissy but of there is a better offer elsewhere I think he'll jump ship.

The only thing I think is holding the club back is the decision of the re-structure, however unlikely it is to happen. If the RFL do switch it up and keep us in it, this could mean players the club wished to ditch have a contractual obligation and therefore unless there is a mutual agreement, we are stuck with them.

For me, Tonga and Gibson are expensive yet injury prone squad members we don't need. You could through Smith into the mix too.

As always, nobody can make a decision until the RFL decide which way the wind is blowing!!!


Chisholm only signed til end of the season.
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