Re: Ownership and twists : Thu Mar 13, 2014 11:04 am  

cue WTW going into meltdown if the points are appealed and given back

Re: Ownership and twists : Thu Mar 13, 2014 11:11 am  

SombreroBu11 wrote:

Didn't Solly say that should all creditors be paid off, we would be able to appeal against the points deduction?

If he did is irrelevant, as no sane person would make such payments on some future off-chance.

SombreroBu11 wrote:

As long as whoever is buying us has the finances to do so, surely it would be in the best interest to pay off the creditors and go for the points being given back? I can't see why Solly would mention it if it's wasn't a pretty strong possiblility.

The possibility I don't see is anyone writing a cheque to pay off the old club debts and the RFL made clear they won't accept a "promise to pay" so stalemate.

Another thing I don't see is at some point well into the season, the RFL suddenly announcing that in light oif £x paid back to old creditors the league table is now revised, and the bulls have shot upwards by 4 or 6 points. Now THAT would cause apocalypse then - and rightly so.

If a new owner in short order paid off all the old debt and in return the deal was a points reinstatement then whilst there might be a temporary fuss, most would see it as not unreasonable, but as i see such events as impossible, it won't happen, and I can't imagine it being acceptable to reverse the points after any delay, much less at the business end of the season.

All of which convinces me the points once gone, were gorrrrrrrrn.

Re: Ownership and twists : Thu Mar 13, 2014 11:12 am  

SombreroBu11 wrote:

Didn't Solly say that should all creditors be paid off, we would be able to appeal against the points deduction? It was buried in one of the recent T&A articles, though I can't remember off hand which one.

As long as whoever is buying us has the finances to do so, surely it would be in the best interest to pay off the creditors and go for the points being given back? I can't see why Solly would mention it if it's wasn't a pretty strong possiblility.

I mean the deep cynic in me is say that he's done it as a convincer to get someone to shell out, only to turn around and say "lol joke, you're not getting your points back" but I'm pretty sure that's just me being paranoid after all the s**t we've been through.

I think the RFL would be properly stuck if that did happen as no doubt, Dr would tweet that he has offered to pay the creditors but the RFL had turned it down and refused to re-instate points, they would lose a lot of face which at this point i time they can't risk.

So I think they would have to give something back, I think it would be four points and we would lose 2 for going into admin, but atm we don't know whats will happen so watch the space.

Re: The 5 runners and riders : Thu Mar 13, 2014 11:17 am  

Does this mean we will have horse racing around the track at half time? Duckman can have one of those blackboards and a box to stand on while he waves his arms about shouting the odds.
If true, I hope he keeps Franny and gives him a chance with some real money to spend. I have just heard that Sammut and Scruton have choked on their breakfast after hearing the rumours.

Re: Ownership and twists : Thu Mar 13, 2014 11:24 am  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

If he did is irrelevant, as no sane person would make such payments on some future off-chance.

The possibility I don't see is anyone writing a cheque to pay off the old club debts and the RFL made clear they won't accept a "promise to pay" so stalemate.

Another thing I don't see is at some point well into the season, the RFL suddenly announcing that in light oif £x paid back to old creditors the league table is now revised, and the bulls have shot upwards by 4 or 6 points. Now THAT would cause apocalypse then - and rightly so.

If a new owner in short order paid off all the old debt and in return the deal was a points reinstatement then whilst there might be a temporary fuss, most would see it as not unreasonable, but as i see such events as impossible, it won't happen, and I can't imagine it being acceptable to reverse the points after any delay, much less at the business end of the season.

All of which convinces me the points once gone, were gorrrrrrrrn.

No I agree about the whole promise to pay thing. If I were them I would be giving the point back on a promise either, false dawns and all that. We'd presumably have to do it first and appeal after all debts are paid. I guess it depends if the buyer (whoever they turn out to be) are both willing and able to take the chance. No guts no glory

Re: Ownership and twists : Thu Mar 13, 2014 11:27 am  

broadybull87 wrote:

I think the RFL would be properly stuck if that did happen as no doubt, Dr would tweet that he has offered to pay the creditors but the RFL had turned it down and refused to re-instate points, they would lose a lot of face which at this point i time they can't risk.

So I think they would have to give something back, I think it would be four points and we would lose 2 for going into admin, but atm we don't know whats will happen so watch the space.

Agreed, now that he's said it, if someone does come in and pay it all he's backed himself into a corner and I can't see how he'd be able to go back on it really.

I'd be surpised if we got all 6. I imagine like you that they'd keep 2 for going into admin the the first place. But even so, getting 4 points back would be a massive boost for us.

Re: Ownership and twists : Thu Mar 13, 2014 11:37 am  

IF we are bought by Mrs K, the points will be an issue for the play-offs, not relegation.

Re: Ownership and twists : Thu Mar 13, 2014 11:43 am  

Stul wrote:

IF we are bought by Mrs K, the points will be an issue for the play-offs, not relegation.

You're an optimist. I'd forgotten what one looks like

Re: Ownership and twists : Thu Mar 13, 2014 11:44 am  

W.T.F IS GOING ON wrote:

if mrs. k does win the bidding I hope we aren't re-branded and made to wear silly hats and long shirts and called the Kou Kash Klan.

Re: Ownership and twists : Thu Mar 13, 2014 11:47 am  

Stul wrote:

IF we are bought by Mrs K, the points will be an issue for the play-offs, not relegation.

If his Mrs does buy us I would expect 3 overseas signings pretty much straight away,so who knows

Would obviously need to be given some points back first